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Old 30-03-2012, 03:25   #16
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Re: Salvage rights

At least three, probrably more, boats were abandoned off Bermuda this year in relatively fine condition. I wonder if anyone happened across any of them? My neighbors boat was one of them a Pacific Seacraft 37. Lost it's mast but was otherwise intact.
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Old 30-03-2012, 04:21   #17
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Salvage is not "finders Keepers".

Reward depends on risks taken and likely damage that would have occurred to a vessel / cargo if you had not taken action.

That reward may come in the form of the boat instead of cash (if you agree to take the boat) - but that not your decision, as it's not your boat.

(obviously several hundred years of international marine / Admiralty law has been condensed a tad with the above!).

Proffessional Salvors will have a "standard" contract to offer to a vessel so that the terms of any help (i.e. a tow to safety) is agreed by both parties before any action is taken. In the case described by OP the help he was offered was likely at a cost that the Owner did not want to pay (or did not have?).

If the boat is sitting on mud then setting an anchor and waiting for the tide would seem the best / cheapest option - if sitting on rocks then perhaps not........
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Agree with the karma. Happy to have been able to help. I'm not interested in even a beer, as I mentioned earlier just curious.
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Old 30-03-2012, 05:51   #19
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I much agree with Jeff. As apparently does the OP. As, I expect, would almost all on this board. It is one of the great seafaring traditions that is too rarely seen ashore.

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Old 30-03-2012, 07:57   #20
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Re: Salvage rights

This story sounds manufactured to me.
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I wonder why no one has laid claim to the Japanese boat off of Oregon.
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This story sounds manufactured to me.
Okay I exaggerated about the shark infested waters the rest is true.
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Old 30-03-2012, 10:58   #23
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Re: Salvage Rights

If you attach a line to it, it becomes your responsibilty. So make sure your insurance is up to date. Whether you have any salvage rights will be answered later. When the tide goes out in England a lot of boats are high and dry but not abandoned.
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Re: Salvage Rights

Not sure about salvage, but if what tow companies do also applies to you you might be able to get thousands of dollars by getting the boat off and holding it.....
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Not sure about salvage, but if what tow companies do also applies to you you might be able to get thousands of dollars by getting the boat off and holding it.....
I believe this is correct. Whilst in Hawaii, the scam the fishing boats would pull was towing a sailboat in from some miles out and when they came into the harbor, claimed that towing the sailboat in pulled their transom off the framing. So $1200 for a tow from 50 miles out and $5000 for the transom repair. I saw this done on a Celestial 48 that was towed to Kona Harbor. So the only way you can lay stake to an abandoned vessel is to charge your hours against it and if the owner can't or won't pay, you can lean it. I think only 90 days. Can anyone back this up?
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I don’t dispute this, but I was responding to this-There are basically NO salvage rights in the US... the owner still owns it, period--!
U r correct. Tow charges only. Once past the 200 mile zone then salvage possible. Problem is once u tow it into the zone, property rights apply
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Be best to go check on his boat until his liquor and ice run out. After that, why bother?
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If I interpret the picture right there is an anchor line off the port side and the boat is aground.

So in nautical terms the boat is fixed to ground and grounded.

If every boat that was fixed to ground and grounded was a salvageable vessel there would be a lot of raids on boatyards. They got lots of grounded vessels - LOL

If ya wanted to make money from this gents problems ya shoulda charged him for the ride to the tow boat - :-)
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Interesting, ok lets take another scenario.... I'm on a passage and come across an abondoned vessel floating in international waters. No owner in sight, what do I do? What would you do? Has anyone ever had this occurrence? What's the law in this case.

Abby Sunderland's boat, 'Wild Eyes' comes to mind.

Opps, I just threw a grenade onto this thread.
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I wonder why no one has laid claim to the Japanese boat off of Oregon.
G'day, mates. Might have something to do with radiation that might be present! Cheers.
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