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Old 28-11-2013, 07:20   #31
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Re: Sailing or Cheating/Motorsailing?

It's nice to criticize sailing boats motoring around us when we are sailing. If we are motoring... Well, we are motoring
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and if we drift we drift..... there will eventually be a breeze, mebbe even enough to propel a boat for a few feet....lol....

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Old 28-11-2013, 07:45   #33
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I appreciate/respect sailors that sail their boats.

That is quite the stream of water exiting the stern. Must be the AC pump or watermaker discharge?

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Old 28-11-2013, 08:13   #34
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Bilge pump! Say it's the bilge pump
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Old 28-11-2013, 08:43   #35
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Hi all,
I guess I'm cheating as I own a motorsailer. It doesn't point into the wind under sail like some of you can. And it only motors at hull speed, so I get criticized by both sides. But I love it.
I can cruise in all weather, sometimes under sail, sometimes motoring, sometimes both. If its calm, I motor; If it's raining and blowing I sail from the warm pilothouse; If its nice I sail/motor using the tiller. I'm not a purist; I just enjoy getting out there.
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Old 28-11-2013, 08:48   #36
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......... And it only motors at hull speed, ............
Pretty scary! I don't want to be standing on the dock or taking a line when you're docking!

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Old 28-11-2013, 11:32   #37
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Re: Sailing or Cheating/Motorsailing?

Being we are a big power boat.

So the question is if a sail boat has its sails up and its motoring as far as tje rules of tje road/water is it a Sail or power boat?
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Old 28-11-2013, 11:33   #38
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Re: Sailing or Cheating/Motorsailing?

Motor sailers are not all dogs, and your statement Kokanee about "I can cruise in all weather" is one of the big perks. Took a motor sailor from Texas to St. Thomas. She didn't motor well and she didn't sail all that well, but she was strong and took care of me in a hellacious storm. That kinda thing make a gal very loyal to a boat, warts and all.

Also crewed on a Nauticat, brought it up from Guatemala to Isla Mujeras, she was very top heavy but was a good sailor, motored well, and was very comfortable.

My hubby and I, when we decide to do higher latitudes (cold) we will be looking at the modern motor sailor / pilot house design.
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Being we are a big power boat. So the question is if a sail boat has its sails up and its motoring as far as tje rules of tje road/water is it a Sail or power boat?
I'm a little powerboat, but have always been told if they have a sail up, they are a sailboat and therefore have the right of way. Sometimes you'll see a sailboat with the sail up, but it's not being used, the assumption is it's done to get the right of way, but who knows maybe they are doing it to be seen.
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Re: Sailing or Cheating/Motorsailing?

If a sailboat is motoring, or motorsailing, its rights revert back to that of a motorboat. Supposed to have a day shape or proper lighting to let others know that is the case.

In real world people usually treat someone motorsailing as a vessel under sail however.
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"Motorsailig is the norm today, I read someplace, because of the wind, the current, and lots of other reasons " ,blah, blah, blah.

We are sailing, tacking like crazy, reefing, covering 3 times the distance, taking our time, but we don't use the engines unless it is a life-and-death situations (happened too).

How many of you out there, sailors, actually sail?


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chuckle..... I understand what you are saying. I get a kick out of the bay sailors that come out on a nice day motoring out into the bay then sail around in circles having a great time till they get tired and then motor back into a marina and go for grog and food. Then further up north they sorta do the same thing except that they may actually motor out into the ocean for a short distance sail around a bit then motor back in..........I mean they are having fun but is this actually sailing?
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Being we are a big power boat.

So the question is if a sail boat has its sails up and its motoring as far as tje rules of tje road/water is it a Sail or power boat?
It is most definitely a power boat under those circumstances
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.........I mean they are having fun but is this actually sailing?
Happy holidays everyone!
Sure, it's having fun and sailing! Who would choose disappointment? Having fun can also be sailing into the slip... or having fun can be the food and drink without raising a sail. Having fun can be ghosting in the fog! Who's the Grinch that put some rule upon having fun in your boat?
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Being we are a big power boat.

So the question is if a sail boat has its sails up and its motoring as far as tje rules of tje road/water is it a Sail or power boat?
If the sails are up its a sailboat and has right of way. But there are so many people on the water with no idea these days that its a moot point.
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If the sails are up its a sailboat and has right of way. But there are so many people on the water with no idea these days that its a moot point.
I will agree with your second sentence.

Sorry but once you turn the motor on (even if in neutral), you are a motor boat per the rules.
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