Oops - Should Have Checked That!

ribbony · 25-11-2008, 14:48

To keep a long story short:
1/ Bought the yacht with all the fittings attached.
2/ Stripped it down and restored it over 2.5 years to date.
3/ Restored the anchor winch, mounted it back ont he deck, loaded the original chain into the newly made anchor locker, then after all that

The chain won't fit the gypsy !!!!

Correct thickness of chain but the gypsy is for short link and we have standard.

Never assume that the anchor locker full of chain on the vessel will fit the gypsy that had been on it for a decade at least.

Now we have to get new chain. Again - Never Assume !

Wotname · 26-11-2008, 01:03

The old "assume" makes an ass out of u and me trick.
Sorry to hear of your problem.

Hampus · 26-11-2008, 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ribbony

To keep a long story short:
1/ Bought the yacht with all the fittings attached.
2/ Stripped it down and restored it over 2.5 years to date.
3/ Restored the anchor winch, mounted it back ont he deck, loaded the original chain into the newly made anchor locker, then after all that

The chain won't fit the gypsy !!!!

Correct thickness of chain but the gypsy is for short link and we have standard.

Never assume that the anchor locker full of chain on the vessel will fit the gypsy that had been on it for a decade at least.

Now we have to get new chain. Again - Never Assume !

If it makes you feel better, I've done pretty much the same thing. Bought an anchor winch with chain. You think the chain fits? Nope!

/Hampus

bmartinsen · 26-11-2008, 03:04

I did something like that but I was able to change the gypsy for a reasonable price. Check that out. Good luck.
Brad

dacust · 26-11-2008, 07:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ribbony

Never Assume !

Well, don't feel too dumb. This isn't boating related, but...

First time I got my jeep stuck, I pulled out my brand new come-a-long, released the catch, and pulled out all of the cable. All 10 feet. 10 feet???? Hmmm, said 25' right there on the box...

Ooooops - Should have checked that.

I had to pull the jeep about 50 feet in about 4' increments, re-rigging each time. Took about 3 hours. In the snow. Up hill. Both ways.

Little Otter · 26-11-2008, 08:18

I'm sorry to hear about that I hope you can get a good price on chain, hey dacust could you please explain to me how it could be uphill both ways because I've never understood how that could work doesn't a hill have to have a down slope on the other side?

**David M** · 26-11-2008, 08:54

On ships the device which grabs the chain is called a wildcat. A gypsy is defined as a small winch or a horizontal drum called a "gypsy head" that a hawser is warped onto.

Are the definitions different for yachts?

SilentOption · 26-11-2008, 09:31

I am just into the second year of a similar project. I have removed about everything that could be removed and recycled what I could and threw the rest out.
if the anchor chain is the worst problem you have encountered I'd say you are real fortunate.

dacust · 26-11-2008, 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Otter

...hey dacust could you please explain to me how it could be uphill both ways because I've never understood how that could work doesn't a hill have to have a down slope on the other side?

uphill both ways

Little Otter · 29-11-2008, 23:07

Okay thanks that was driving m crazier than I already am trying to figure that one out.

S/V Elusive · 30-11-2008, 09:40

Hummmm... I dunno ... I know that *I've* SAILED uphill both ways.

Little Otter · 30-11-2008, 18:30

Huh... Not again, where did I put that asprin I'm going to need it in a few minutes.

Stillraining · 30-11-2008, 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by David M

On ships the device which grabs the chain is called a wildcat. A gypsy is defined as a small winch or a horizontal drum called a "gypsy head" that a hawser is warped onto.

Are the definitions different for yachts?

On small craft a capsin is for line and gypsy is for chain...likewise in the oil field or logging operation a "cat head" is a horizontal capsin for line only.

Weyalan · 30-11-2008, 19:17

check out your winch manufacturer for a new gypsy... most will have em readily avialable for less than the cost of new chain... having gypsys to suit different chain size / lengths may be a good thing...

ribbony · 01-12-2008, 00:34

The notion of having different gypsys would be good for cruising. Our winch unfortunatly has no brand apart from CM10, it is of cast alloy and is the only one of these we have seen. I will post a photo in case anyone else knows what it is. It is very simple in operation and should be pretty bombproof.

25-11-2008, 14:48	#1
ribbony Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Boat: Adams 35 Posts: 373 Images: 18	Oops - Should Have Checked That! To keep a long story short: 1/ Bought the yacht with all the fittings attached. 2/ Stripped it down and restored it over 2.5 years to date. 3/ Restored the anchor winch, mounted it back ont he deck, loaded the original chain into the newly made anchor locker, then after all that The chain won't fit the gypsy !!!! Correct thickness of chain but the gypsy is for short link and we have standard. Never assume that the anchor locker full of chain on the vessel will fit the gypsy that had been on it for a decade at least. Now we have to get new chain. Again - Never Assume ! __________________ "The best place to be, is here". "The best time to be here, is now".

26-11-2008, 01:03	#2
Wotname Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Boat: Van DeStat Super Dogger 31' Posts: 1,391	The old "assume" makes an ass out of u and me trick. Sorry to hear of your problem. __________________ All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangereous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T.E. Lawrence

26-11-2008, 08:18	#6
Little Otter Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cumming, Georgia United States Posts: 415	I'm sorry to hear about that I hope you can get a good price on chain, hey dacust could you please explain to me how it could be uphill both ways because I've never understood how that could work doesn't a hill have to have a down slope on the other side? __________________ Cdt. Gy.SGT. life is a mystery and if you try to solve it youll end up more confused than you were before!!

26-11-2008, 08:54	#7
David M Moderator Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Francisco Bay Boat: research vessel Posts: 5,188	On ships the device which grabs the chain is called a wildcat. A gypsy is defined as a small winch or a horizontal drum called a "gypsy head" that a hawser is warped onto. Are the definitions different for yachts? __________________ David Life begins where land ends. Last edited by David M; 26-11-2008 at 09:01.

26-11-2008, 09:31	#8
SilentOption Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 282	I am just into the second year of a similar project. I have removed about everything that could be removed and recycled what I could and threw the rest out. if the anchor chain is the worst problem you have encountered I'd say you are real fortunate. __________________ 11.21.2009 request at help desk to close acct. PW chgd, notifications removed. DOB 04.08.1960

26-11-2008, 03:04	#4
bmartinsen Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Grand Cayman Boat: Lavranos 39 S/v Continental Drift Posts: 79	I did something like that but I was able to change the gypsy for a reasonable price. Check that out. Good luck. Brad

29-11-2008, 23:07	#10
Little Otter Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cumming, Georgia United States Posts: 415	Okay thanks that was driving m crazier than I already am trying to figure that one out. __________________ Cdt. Gy.SGT. life is a mystery and if you try to solve it youll end up more confused than you were before!!

30-11-2008, 09:40	#11
S/V Elusive Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,454	Hummmm... I dunno ... I know that I've SAILED uphill both ways.

30-11-2008, 18:30	#12
Little Otter Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cumming, Georgia United States Posts: 415	Huh... Not again, where did I put that asprin I'm going to need it in a few minutes. __________________ Cdt. Gy.SGT. life is a mystery and if you try to solve it youll end up more confused than you were before!!

30-11-2008, 19:17	#14
Weyalan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tasmania Boat: VandeStadt IOR 40' - Insatiable Posts: 1,297 Images: 31	check out your winch manufacturer for a new gypsy... most will have em readily avialable for less than the cost of new chain... having gypsys to suit different chain size / lengths may be a good thing...

01-12-2008, 00:34	#15
ribbony Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Boat: Adams 35 Posts: 373 Images: 18	The notion of having different gypsys would be good for cruising. Our winch unfortunatly has no brand apart from CM10, it is of cast alloy and is the only one of these we have seen. I will post a photo in case anyone else knows what it is. It is very simple in operation and should be pretty bombproof. __________________ "The best place to be, is here". "The best time to be here, is now".

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