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27-03-2008, 20:17
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How well does wine age
At the bottom of the ocean. Like maybe about 100ft of water. Just wondering????
If you want to know why I am asking, ask Seafox!
Regards,
Mrs Wheels :-(
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27-03-2008, 21:38
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This may only be hearsay, but I've watched some documentaries where they found jars of wine on the bottom from ships that sunk in Roman times.
Of course the oldest bottle of wine is from WINE 101: Wine History 325 A.D. But this particular bottle was found in a sarcophagus underground, not under water........
Edit: Oh I didn't answer your question at all. I don't know at all how wine ages under 100ft of water. haha
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27-03-2008, 22:03
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I believe that varies most with the temperature, the type of wine and the time.
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27-03-2008, 22:57
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A tuff Sth Island red could go for quite a long while if corked rather than screw capped, corrosion. Only guessing though. GPS the spot and dive in a few years to see, you just never know.
Mr Wheels have just one tooooo many and a Opps did he Mrs Wheels
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27-03-2008, 23:58
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Nah not me. I'll give you a hint at what the misses is hinting at. This post is in the "Sailors Confessional". We were all on Seafox for the evening. I think she was wanting Darryl to confess ;-)
Here's the story.
Dawn decided to take a wee gift over to Paula. It was a bottle of Mudhouse Chardonay, one of Mrs Wheels's favourites. I tell ya, between Marauder and Seafox, those lot know how to polish off a lot of bottles of differing nectares. Of course, I just sip away in a controlled maner. anyway, the result is we end up with a lot of empty bottles. So we fill them with water and deep six them in Cook Straight. They eventually become homes for little critters or break up to become sand once again. Anyway, unknown to us, Mrs P had a bunch of bottles filled with water ready to dump. Darryl decided that seeing as we were already in deep water, he may as well do it then. It was late at night and being a minimalist boat, they only have candle light. So he picked up the bottles and dropped them over the side. Next morning Mrs Wheels asks Mrs P if she found the present she left. Of course, they soon realised what had happend. A $30 bottle of wine is now on the bottom. Oh well.
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28-03-2008, 00:02
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15 degrees and dark...
My understanding is that good wine "ages" best at 15 degrees and a dark place.
The bottom of the ocean would be good as long as the seal held.
Those new plastic corks might work well.
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28-03-2008, 03:32
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Wine makers in Croatia are storing white wine under the sea to find out if conditions in the water enhance its taste.
Goto: BBC NEWS | World | Croatians make wine under water
Whoever thought of putting wine under the ocean to age?
Whoever it was, was either plum crazy or a genius.
Goto: HomePort Wine & Spirits » Cavas Submarinas … underwater wine?
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28-03-2008, 05:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Wheeler
At the bottom of the ocean. Like maybe about 100ft of water. Just wondering????
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Its not how well it ages that is the problem, its ripping the cork out and guzzeling it whilst at 100 feet!
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28-03-2008, 05:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ
Its not how well it ages that is the problem, its ripping the cork out and guzzeling it whilst at 100 feet!
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And here I was, wondering what to do with that bathosphere in the garage!
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28-03-2008, 12:57
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Yeah well, 100ft is shallow for where we were. And I have never dived that far down. 75ft has been the most for me and that was far enough. The Cook Straight goes to close to 8000ft. The main concern is current. I doubt anyone could actually get down there (100ft that is) and back up with the current. In the Straight, we have an undersea cable linking South Island and North Island. It's getting old and leaks like a sieve. They sent a camera down there and took a good look. To thier astonishment, the floor of the canyoun is totaly swept clean. It must be an intersting rock formation, but the guys that did this said that the floor looked like someone had cobble stoned the area. Not a grain of sand to be seen. Nothing, no plant not anything. The current is simply too strong.
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28-03-2008, 14:19
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28-03-2008, 14:39
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Someone in Quebec was trying to age cheese on the bottom of the St. Lawrence River a while back. I think they had some problem finding it again, but can't recall rightly.
But if it worked, you could have a sea-bottom-aged wine and cheese party.
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28-03-2008, 16:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Connemara
But if it worked, you could have a sea-bottom-aged wine and cheese party.
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OMG!
You know that would work.
Add that it is "green" aging and the suckers will flock to it throwing money at you.
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28-03-2008, 19:44
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I take it that you were more than 12 miles from shore -
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Well...of course!. Ummm...which shore are we talking??:-)
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28-03-2008, 20:01
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Wheels, it will take some time for the water to penetrate the cork but under the pressure of a hundred foot water column, that's going to start pretty quickly. You COULD possibly dive and retrieve it, but at that depth I'm guessing by the time you'd made enough dives to actually find the right bottle--you'd have spent more on the air than the wine was worth.
I can tell you from recovering rum at 80-90 feet, that once the seawater gets past the cork, whatever is in the bottle absolutely STINKS and you'd have no desire to try drinking it.
$30? Call it a cheap tuition fee, never throw out the trash unless you KNOW it is the trash![g]
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