Health and saftey

[jouet 820]

It's almost 200 years since Lord Nelson's famous naval victory over the
French
and Spanish in the Battle of Trafalgar. To kick-start the anniversary
celebrations, an actor dressed as Nelson posed for pictures on the River
Thames
at Greenwich. But before he was allowed to board an RNLI Lifeboat, safety
officials made him wear a life jacket over his 19th century admiral's
uniform.

How Nelson would have fared if he had been subject to modern health and
safety
regulations.

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[wampler]

well at least we can still do something on our boats

[Morgan Paul]

The post is way to friging long to read I will let other people comment.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by jouet 820

It's almost 200 years since Lord Nelson's famous naval victory over the French and Spanish in the Battle of Trafalgar. To kick-start the anniversary celebrations, an actor dressed as Nelson posed for pictures on the River Thames at Greenwich. But before he was allowed to board an RNLI Lifeboat, safety officials made him wear a life jacket over his 19th century admiral's uniform.
How Nelson would have fared if he had been subject to modern health and
safety regulations...

I don’t know where jouet acquired this parody, as there are numerous similar sources.

Notwithstanding, the CruisersForum doesn’t condone copyright violatioms.

Please, quote short passages, and link to the source website.

Ie:
Nelson 200 years on, could Trafalgar happen today?
http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Jokes/j...e/ad=desc.html

RUM, SODOMY & THE LIFEJACKET
RUM, SODOMY & THE LIFEJACKET

[Chiroeurope]

Having just read the whole of it. It is very accurate of modern UK life. The best thing the common man of Britain can do is leave. The most noble is illegal and involves rope, blocks of wood and sharp axes. That and convincing the liberals to all stand in a line and politely walk through the door one at a time or to place the head in the circle of the proper markings for the new ID pictures. To be honest the Tories aren't any better. But hey minus the government most of the folk here are great.

Michael

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Chiroeurope

...convincing the liberals to all stand in a line and politely walk through the door one at a time or to place the head in the circle of the proper markings for the new ID pictures...
Michael

Many common words and phrases have both a literal, or descriptive meaning that refers to the way things are, and an emotive meaning that expresses some (positive or negative) feeling about them.
Negative emotive words are best omitted from polite & friendly discussion & debate.

A very abbreviated list of emotionally charged words;
- Liberal
- Conservative
- Socialist
- Fascist
- All pejorative names for races, sexual preference, ethnic groups, or religions
- All personal characterizations (stupid, foolish etc)
- Hate
- You is often received as an accusatory word

[starbolin]

Lord Nelson had many a rule and regulation to live by as well. Living during the apex of British culture he had to maneuver through a complex social structure. He was undoubtedly very familiar with various arbitrary political restrictions. Having achieved the position he did he proved himself to be adept at maneuvering through a sea of culture and politics. He would probably fair better in our regulatory environment than most.

[Chief Engineer]

Lord Nelson knew the perfect way
to cure your mal-de-mer
And if you pay attention
His secret I will share

To any sea-sick sailor
I will give this advice for free
If you're feelin seasick
Sit underneath a tree.

I'm marching inland from the shore
over me shoulder I'm carryin an oar
and when someone asks me "What is that funny thing ya got?"
Then I know I'll never go to sea no more, no more
Then I know I'll never go to sea no more.....

(What was the origin of the last stanza?)

[maxingout]

Originally Posted by GordMay

I don’t know where jouet acquired this parody, as there are numerous similar sources.
Notwithstanding, the CruisersForum doesn’t condone copyright violations.
Please, quote short passages, and link to the source website.

Interesting point Gord.

As I was going over some of the IP addresses of "people" visiting my own websites, I came across a website called attributor.com that scans all of my sites. It turns out that a company called Attributor scans the web for copied content and copyright violations. If you click on the three articles listed below, you will be amazed to see that they make a business of finding "borrowed" content. Associated Press is one of their biggest clients, but they have lots of other businesses using their services.

Attributor: Overview - Monitor your content and improve your content syndication
Attributor Tracks Web Content - 11/12/2007 - Publishers Weekly
Attributor Launches Service to Track Copyright Infringement Across the Web

Big Brother isn't just the government. Businesses and content providers are taking copyright infringement very seriously on the world wide web.

[Pelagic]

That is interesting Dave.

I never thought of copyright issues when copying info from Websites.

I always felt that anyone who posted something original of theirs was in fact offering it into the public domain.

When I am cruising and have limited fast connections, I often quickly copy the text and photos, paste into Word and file for future study.

Never thought of that as being wrong!

Perhaps it only is…… if you make the mistake of reproducing it as I have done a couple of times on this Forum and Gord has pointed it out to me.

Where does one cross the line?

[Fishspearit]

I think as long as there is a link back to the source, that's considered a good reference and therefore is not a copyright infringement. It's when you try to pass it off as your own that you are 'stealing'. That may not be the legal standard, but it is my own moral standard.

By placing the link to the copied material, you are generating traffic back to the source, which is usually the whole purpose of why the source posted it on the internet in the first place.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Fishspearit

I think as long as there is a link back to the source, that's considered a good reference and therefore is not a copyright infringement...
By placing the link to the copied material, you are generating traffic back to the source, which is usually the whole purpose of why the source posted it on the internet in the first place.

If you copy an entire piece, or enough of it, then I don’t have to follow your link, and you’ve reduced the value of the original (I don’t need to buy it, nor view the owner’s website).

You may use part of a work, for the purposes of research or study without the copyright owner’s permission, provided your use is “fair” and genuinely for the purpose of research or study.
Fair dealing may be defined as the use of quotations that do not exceed a certain length. Even in these cases proper acknowledgment of source, including author and publisher, should be made

Excerpted from the U.S. Copyright Office website:
“... The distinction between “fair use” and infringement may be unclear and not easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission...”

Goto: http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

See also
10 Big Myths about copyright explained ~ by Brad Templeton

Goto: 10 Big Myths about copyright explained

[Fishspearit]

Excerpted from the U.S. Copyright Office website:
“... The distinction between “fair use” and infringement may be unclear and not easily defined. There is no specific number of words, lines, or notes that may safely be taken without permission. Acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material does not substitute for obtaining permission...”

Goto: U.S. Copyright Office - Fair Use

GordMay, I hope you got permission from the U.S. Copyright office before posting that excerpt!

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Fishspearit

GordMay, I hope you got permission from the U.S. Copyright office before posting that excerpt!

Works by the U. S. government are not eligible for U. S. copyright protection. While the U.S government can't get copyright for its own works, it can have an existing copyright assigned to it. Therefor, if the U.S. government produces a work, it's not copyrighted, but if an independent contractor (working for the government) produces a work, it is copyrighted, and nothing prevents that contractor from assigning the copyright back to the government.

[Chief Engineer]

the laugh.

Originally Posted by Fishspearit

GordMay, I hope you got permission from the U.S. Copyright office before posting that excerpt!