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Old 27-12-2013, 00:26   #76
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'

FWIW, I believe that Careening a boat means to let her ground and then lie over on her side. Drying out next to a wharf or pilings or on her own "legs" is not really careening (much easier, safer and practical in terms of working on both sides of her at once).

Pedantic, perhaps, but they are really different things!

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Old 27-12-2013, 03:35   #77
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'

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FWIW, I believe that Careening a boat means to let her ground and then lie over on her side. Drying out next to a wharf or pilings or on her own "legs" is not really careening (much easier, safer and practical in terms of working on both sides of her at once).

Pedantic, perhaps, but they are really different things!

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You're correct, Online Etymology Dictionary
Interesting that the original meaning was boat related and changed through history to mean uncontrolled movement.

So I guess beaching would be a better term when using "legs". Wait a minute, what is the term for the "legs"?
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Old 27-12-2013, 05:17   #78
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'

Around this part of the world, just about every yacht club has what are called "careening poles" to tie up to so that you can settle on your keel and remain upright to work on the bottom at low tides.
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Old 08-01-2014, 19:20   #79
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'

We were beached on a sandbar near st Catherine island in GA just off the ICW. I would love to claim it was intentional, but honesty prevails. We took a long walk on this sandbar as we waited for the tide to come in. We floated right off and stayed closer to the magenta line in Georgia. If you have not been aground you have not been around.
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Old 08-01-2014, 19:58   #80
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'

Ease up and just touch.
Practicing while waiting for the bridge to open at Surf City.
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I will put the topic here, because of the embarassment factor.

While out on the river yesterday, someone mentioned a Dana 24 as a "go anywhere" boat. Although I do not enjoy the prospect of going solo, let's just say that I seem to have a knack for unsatisfying romantic entanglements, so a tiny cruiser that I can inexpensively single-hand myself may be the way to go.

Anyway, they talked about the keel, and I asked if that meant the boat was "beachable." I was laughed at and told,"THAT'S called going aground, and you never want to do that. I said that the Pardey's talk about beaching their boat, instead of needing to have it hauled out. I was told that the Pardey's are crazy. Another person conceded that yes, in emergencies, in isolated areas, sometimes this tactic is used, as if it were always a last-ditch effort to avoid sinking.

I was surprised to see that in a boat full of sailors a unanamous opinion on anything. Is it true that a boat's ability to beach a boat is a non-consideration?

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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'

Those pics Hill Inlet??
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'

No need to get one's feet muddy:

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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'

I would call this:

“Bill and Ted’s Excellent Beaching Adventure with the support of 2 other boats aground”



I would love to have done this..
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'

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Around this part of the world, just about every yacht club has what are called "careening poles" to tie up to so that you can settle on your keel and remain upright to work on the bottom at low tides.
They're called "scrubbing piles" in the UK. I agree with the previous poster who did not find the term "careening" applicable. Careening is when you dry out without the poles, so that the vessel falls over on her side. Otherwise it's just drying out against a quay or against scrubbing piles.
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'

That was rude of the 2 boats on shore not to move when the ship blew its horn....
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Re: Dumb Question? 'Beaching' vs 'Running Aground'

what an education. We bought an old English built catamaran that was designed from the beginning to be able to sit out tides on rocky shorelines.

Until recently, I always thought the difference between running aground and beaching was whether or not there were any witnesses.
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Until recently, I always thought the difference between running aground and beaching was whether or not there were any witnesses.
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what an education. We bought an old English built catamaran that was designed from the beginning to be able to sit out tides on rocky shorelines.
If you are referring to your Catalac - even though built like a brick outhouse it wasn't designed to do that. No boat is - not even a steel one........rocks are fairly abrasive . And so is sand / mud, over time.

Although on CF I have seen mention (in the sub forum I have long since had on ignore) that Catamarans are so different that being on the beach does not even abrade the antifouling - over here (tidal - grounding twice a day) boats (including catamarans) have sacrificial strips on the keels (Steel or Fibreglass) to stop them slowing getting chewed through. of course the occasional beaching (on sand) is a different thing to twice a day over many years - but the physics still the same, as is the need to think twice (on bottom and weather) before parking the boat somewhere.
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If you are referring to your Catalac - even though built like a brick outhouse it wasn't designed to do that. No boat is - not even a steel one........rocks are fairly abrasive . And so is sand / mud, over time.

Although on CF I have seen mention (in the sub forum I have long since had on ignore) that Catamarans are so different that being on the beach does not even abrade the antifouling - over here (tidal - grounding twice a day) boats (including catamarans) have sacrificial strips on the keels (Steel or Fibreglass) to stop them slowing getting chewed through. of course the occasional beaching (on sand) is a different thing to twice a day over many years - but the physics still the same, as is the need to think twice (on bottom and weather) before parking the boat somewhere.
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