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Old 18-04-2010, 21:29   #16
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A good lesson and I am sure he will bear it in mind for the next time.

Of course I have never done the same !!

Make the next time soon.

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Old 19-04-2010, 01:28   #17
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Watch where your feet are too !

This reminds me too well of a training course I was on a while back in the Canary Is.

We were practicing coming alongside a dock and I was very keen to show that I knew the drill (don't remember there being any ladies on board).

Standing at the centre cleat, dock line in hand, I waited until the gap was about 8 feet and went to step over the guard wires intending to hold onto the shroud until the very last moment then step off like a pro.

Hadn't bargained for the fact that my foot was hooked up in the jackline, so I ended up folded backwards over the guard wires suspended on the wire by the back of my knees with my head between the topsides and the closing dock.

Amazing how much strength you can find in such a situation, I managed to pull myself up enough to get my foot clear then fell bodily on to the dock.

I still have occasional trouble where my 200lbs bulk was brought to bear like a cheesewire on the back of my knees.

Moral : If you are going to step off, make absolutely sure your way is clear and you can't trip over anything

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Old 19-04-2010, 02:22   #18
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I jump off all the time. You just have to pay attention, and have good jumping skills. Sure it's dangerous, but if you don't trust yourself to jump onto the dock, you probably ought not be walking on one!
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I can't parse that logic but it's OK, I trust my self not to jump off and strongly suggest to everyone who comes aboard that they take the same approach. I also trust them to walk on the dock, however if it is icy I do warn them.
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If the crew is jumping to the dock means the helm (usually the skipper) needs more practice.............or simply does not know what they should be doing.
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Bow gates in the lifelines can help, too.

No, not with jumping, with stepping off.

The thing is, those with short legs can have great difficulty stepping over lifelines, and anyone can simply trip. Particularly when cruising and arriving at unfaminliar docks, the simplest and safest aproach is often to put the bow on the dock, take a rope ashore, and then either warp in or use the engines. I regulary vist a marina with a strong tide under the floating dock; going side-along at peak flow is impossible and backing aint great.

We only use the gates a few times each year.
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Hey Dan,

I agree with Tager and I jump all the time when on other peoples boats, and at over 50 should know better! But sometimes it just seems right. Take him out tell him what could have gone wrong, and if he is only 18 and there are a boat load of women on board remember he probably will do it again!!! Incidently we are enjoying this cruising stuff far too much. Back in Singers first part of May but then off again early June.
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Hey Dan,

I agree with Tager and I jump all the time when on other peoples boats, and at over 50 should know better! But sometimes it just seems right. Take him out tell him what could have gone wrong, and if he is only 18 and there are a boat load of women on board remember he probably will do it again!!! Incidently we are enjoying this cruising stuff far too much. Back in Singers first part of May but then off again early June.
At least when we jump in Asia we always know we will land in warm water...

Glad you are enjoying the cruise!
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