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24-12-2015, 13:16
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Dear Santa...
... I want this one:
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1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
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25-03-2016, 21:48
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Re: Dear Santa...
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Originally Posted by Paul J. Nolan
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That's the one, and yes I lust for that Rhodes design too! Now why in the world would we crave such a long, skinny, deep, low freeboard, old design? We must be crazy, eh?
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26-03-2016, 03:08
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Re: Dear Santa...
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Originally Posted by Don C L
That's the one, and yes I lust for that Rhodes design too! Now why in the world would we crave such a long, skinny, deep, low freeboard, old design? We must be crazy, eh?
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No. The rest of the world is ignorant and many are stupid, to boot. Let them have their too high, too wide, and waaay too ugly multihulled gin palaces, their Eurotrash floating condos incapable of passing a windy night at sea without dropping their keel or having their ruddershaft go adrift. They are welcome to them. There are a few of us though, a dwindling few, who remember when genius walked among us. Herreschoff, Alden, Rhodes, Stephens, Hunt and many others routinely filled our harbors with craft of breathtaking beauty, speed, power, seakindliness and seaworthiness. Now...just memories. Soon enough, the memories will be gone too.
A lot of things are better now than when I was young and some things are much better. But we lost many wonderful things along the way, apparently forever. Full-time, stay-at-home mothers, safe streets, and CCA boats are only a few.
Paul
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26-03-2016, 04:51
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Re: Dear Santa...
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26-03-2016, 05:47
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Location: Louisville, KY
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Re: Dear Santa...
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26-03-2016, 21:14
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Re: Dear Santa...
Hughes or Hinckley 38 may be one of the best ever....? Hinckley Pilot sloop 35... I'll take all of those too!
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26-03-2016, 22:22
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Marine Service Provider
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Re: Dear Santa...
As long as we are dreaming. I promise manga sea mile under her keel.
Beowulf (Dashew 80' ketch).
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- If animals weren't meant to be eaten then they wouldn't be made of food.
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16-04-2016, 11:31
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Re: Dear Santa...
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Originally Posted by Paul J. Nolan
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Paul, have you seen this?
Welcome to our Web site
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16-04-2016, 12:20
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Re: Dear Santa...
A buddy of mine has a Pearson Rhodes 41...great sailer! The was a Bounty II on sailingtexas.com last week asking 15k...looked like a buy...just sayin' for the droolers...cheers!
Sent from my LGMS323 using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app
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22-04-2016, 10:58
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Re: Dear Santa...
I'm with you guys on grabbing a piece of that dream that's rapidly disintegrating. I'm actively looking for a sound single hander.
I've narrowed my choices down to the 1970s.
C&C 37-43
S&S 37-45
The racing/cruising qualities of these boats compare to Bermuda and Hinkleys. I'd love to find an original C&C Redline 41.
Trying to find an 73 C&C 43 that's been on the great lakes since birth.
For some reason, resale value on C&C is terribly low. I'm looking to spend 50k then invest another 60 into updating things. Mainly with furling mast, AC, water maker, solar/wind/diesel generators...
Pros and cons on this, greatly appreciated!
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22-04-2016, 12:27
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Re: Dear Santa...
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Originally Posted by Deep Blue Blues
I'm with you guys on grabbing a piece of that dream that's rapidly disintegrating. I'm actively looking for a sound single hander.
I've narrowed my choices down to the 1970s.
C&C 37-43
S&S 37-45
The racing/cruising qualities of these boats compare to Bermuda and Hinkleys. I'd love to find an original C&C Redline 41.
Trying to find an 73 C&C 43 that's been on the great lakes since birth.
For some reason, resale value on C&C is terribly low. I'm looking to spend 50k then invest another 60 into updating things. Mainly with furling mast, AC, water maker, solar/wind/diesel generators...
Pros and cons on this, greatly appreciated!
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Wow, C&C 43; they are certainly beautiful boats, to my eye, and you'll be setting speed records among your friends with more traditional cruising monohulls I bet. Not sure why the resale is poor, perhaps issues with cored hulls or decks (not sure if they had cored hulls or not.) With a budget like yours, you will definitely find many options! My only major reservation lies with spade rudders on a cruiser, though I know many folks are sailing around just fine with them. I'd be ok with it as long as the boat comes with a good spare rudder that can be hung on the transom! Though I love the downwind speed of the post Cal 40 flatter bottom racer/cruisers, that slamming of the hull when going to weather may get old fast (for cruising). However I have not sailed on a C&C so take that concern with a grain of salt
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22-04-2016, 12:37
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Re: Dear Santa...
Thanks Don, It has a balsa wood cored deck as far as I know.
Are you saying that fast and cruising don't go together comfortably? Fast are flat and cruisers are full keeled?
I've got a bad back. Is a C&C going to beat me to death?
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22-04-2016, 13:02
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Re: Dear Santa...
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Originally Posted by Deep Blue Blues
Thanks Don, It has a balsa wood cored deck as far as I know.
Are you saying that fast and cruising don't go together comfortably? Fast are flat and cruisers are full keeled?
I've got a bad back. Is a C&C going to beat me to death?
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Well, there is the issue of comfort as it relates to fatigue or lack of it over time ESPECIALLY if you are singlehanding. Singlehanding can be very tiring because you don't often get a full night's sleep! But there is the mysterious "sea-kindliness" thing, a comfortable motion, and personally I find it on designs more like mine (narrower and deeper and fuller keel), which are not FAST by modern standards, but not slow pigs either. No I do not think it will beat you up, but you are wise to sleep in the quarter berths when underway going to weather! Leave the v-berth for the sails and other stuff. My own take on it is that the compromise between speed and comfort and safety on a cruising boat seems to come together around a design with a larger fin keel and a rudder hung on a stout skeg.. kind of the best of both worlds thing... Have you looked at any designs like the Peterson 44? That is (another) one I like as a cruiser...
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22-04-2016, 15:36
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Re: Dear Santa...
Yes very much actually. I really like the Peterson's in the 30-40 ft range.
They seem to be the least likely to get caught on a line or net. The stout skeg protecting the rudder... but they run deep for a fin. I want to get into the Caribbean at some point.
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