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Old 14-10-2009, 09:32   #16
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Factor - Yes I get my own irony but you are quoting out of context - The part about how she opened herself to public scrutiny is important to how she is treated.

Anna Nicolle Smith is a golddigger

Courtney Love is a low talent claim jumper

Bobby Brown is a low life wife beater

Michael Jackson was a pedophile

Jessica what's-her-name is not a circumnavigator

I may be wrong on all the above but I don't think it violates any play nice rule.

In a year I guess we will all be aksing, "Jessica who?"
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Courtney Love is a low talent clam jumper
Just ask Madonna
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Anna Nicolle Smith is a golddigger Courtney Love is a low talent claim jumper
Bobby Brown is a low life wife beater Jessica what's-her-name is not a circumnavigator

I may be wrong on all the above but I don't think it violates any play nice rule.

In a year I guess we will all be aksing, "Jessica who?"
I have no idea who those people are, they have nothing to do with this discussion.

With all due respect, I opened this thread not to bash JW but to ask some factual questions. Could the snarkiness and JW-bashing please be confined to the "fail" thread and not hijack this one? Thanks.

So, again, is there an actual record that she is trying to beat and if she succeeds, who officially recognize her trip?

And for the above, if there is such an entity, do they define the terms?
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- - A little looking around and lo and behold there are several "world records" outfits - the most famous is Guiness and another I found is called "World Records Academy". There are probably many others in various countries around the world.
- - As GordMay has posted "World Speed Sailing Record Council (WSSRC)" has dropped the "youngest" category and since they were considered the "judge" of most anything to do with sailing, that leaves it open for anybody and everybody to claim "Youngest XXXXX Sailing XXXX."
- - From Guiness: Guinness World Records™ on standby to ratify Mike Perham as the youngest person to sail solo around the world - Guinness World Records Blog post
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Guinness World Records will be on hand to ratify 17-year-old Mike Perham's astonishing achievement of becoming the youngest person to sail solo around the world, when the British sailor returns to Gunwharf Quay, Portsmouth on Saturday August 29.
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This will not be the first time that Mike Perham from Potters Bar, Hertfordshire has been credited by Guinness World Records. Back in January 2007, he became the youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic at the age of 14.
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Mike set out on his latest solo adventure from Gunwharf Quay on 15th November 2008 and crossed the traditional Ushant/Lizard line for marking the start (and finish) of sailing circumnavigations from the Western Approaches, on the 18th November 2008 aboard his 50ft yacht TotallyMoney.com at the age of 16 years 247 days
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- - In Mike's blog he talks of having to switch categories from "solo around non-stop" to "solo around assisted" even though he was initially in Port getting repairs for only one day. It was the physical assistance from people on land that caused the switch.
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As I understand it, the simple record she is looking to set is to be the youngest to circumnavigate, solo, non-stop and unassisted.

These terms are specifically defined by the IORC; she would simply be bettering the exisiting record by Jesse Martin in 1999.

I have been writing a series of articles on her journey and encourage anyone interested to visit and follow her progress. I normally update any day there is any news to report.

Jessia Watson articles from Greg Murphy
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Well according to the news in Oz, JW is departing Sunday morning (Sydney time), which is late-afternoon Saturday for US fans.

Anyone know a good, reliable link where we can watch live?
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For a change....lets not go all nice. This thread was more reading fun when people where getting all spun up!

I don't really care if I ever circumnavigate because I'm more interested in the voygerythan in getting anywhere. But if I do I never want to do it:
1 - solo
2 - unassited
3 - non-stop
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Factor - Yes I get my own irony but you are quoting out of context - The part about how she opened herself to public scrutiny is important to how she is treated."
No it isnt - there is not one law for the famous and one for others - well at least not in my country. Indeed this precise issue has been upheld in a recent matter of charges against a member of the paparazzi (sp?) where his honour found that the fame of the subject did not give the photographer the right to commit unlawful and invasive acts.

So no - her "fame" does not affect how she may be trated.
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Factor - In the interest of "Fair Moderation" - I take the point made in this thread about me playing nice. My opinions on Jessica are made already - I have no need to flog the horse.

I also agree with keeping this on topic - It's not about me or you. The question still stands - What do the terms solo, non-stop and unassisted mean.

Let's stay on topic...
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I thought the question was answered -
Solo = nobody on the boat but you.
Non-stop = not touching land or anchoring anywhere after departing your starting point until you return to you starting point. Anchoring is touching land, just ask your anchor. I am unsure if touching with your keel would disqualify for non-stop.
Un-assisted = no shore crews, or assistance, replenishing supplies or parts between departure and arrival.
-- As was explained by Jessica W to qualify as "around the world" you must include one crossing of the equator. Which is why she has to head north and then back south again. Maybe with "global warming and the melting of the North Pole Ice Cap somebody will be able to sail north over the top and back south again skirting around Antartica then home. That would be new and different.
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... Non-stop = not touching land or anchoring anywhere after departing your starting point until you return to you starting point. Anchoring is touching land, just ask your anchor. I am unsure if touching with your keel would disqualify for non-stop.
Un-assisted = no shore crews, or assistance, replenishing supplies or parts between departure and arrival...
From the ISAF/World Sailing Speed Record Rules for individually attempted Passage Records or Performances Offshore.
The Courses Offshore

With or without assistance

i 'Without assistance' means that a vessel may not receive any kind of outside assistance whatever except for 21.h. and 21. i. nor take on board any supplies (beyond the harvest of the sea), materials or equipment during an attempt. A vessel may be anchored or beached during the attempt, but any repairs must be made entirely by the crew without outside resources or materials. It is never permitted to take on board stores or equipment or get any other kind of help from another vessel whilst under way (except as 'i' Emergencies below).

ii 'With assistance' means a vessel may enter harbour for repairs, alterations or stores as required with or without the help of persons outside the crew. During any stops, the timing of the voyage continues.

f. Singlehanded
'Singlehanded' means there is only one person aboard. If a singlehanded skipper accepts any kind of outside assistance (see 21e) then the voyage falls into the "singlehanded with assistance" category.
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