Vessel boarded and robbed between Trinidad and Grenada

[PuttingDoctor]

A flare gun at close range can start a fire in a skiff attempting a boarding move. But how about a heavier load in a long barrel 12ga. shotgun? Lob a flare or two onto the deck of the mother ship and make the third round a slug load not birdshot.

Anyone tried the flare load / fire starter with a 12 ga.? Looking for ideas.

[reed1v]

Rich kids complain about being ripped off by poor people. What news is that? Doubt if most cruisers report any crimes. Will get you locked up or worse. Just accept that your a target in most of the ports around the world. We have met lots of cruisers who got boarded, robbed, raped, and crippled. Reported the crime only to be stuck in port for weeks to months on end while the "investigations" went nowhere. Two actually got murdered afterwards. So after about 40 years, can only offer this advice: make it look like lots of folks aboard. We had three junky tenders we always left chained to our boat while at anchor. Cockpit light always on. Don't carry much cash and leave your Rolex on board when on land.

[Lizzy Belle]

That comment was rude, offensive, uninformed and made no sense, and I was with you until

Originally Posted by powsmias

and cancer wishes come to mind as well.

Seriously? You'd wish that one someone for making a stupid forum post?
Pfffft. This thread is showing me some sides of people I'd rather not see.

I am amazed at the willingness of some people to either kill or harm people, support sharia law as a way of "teaching good behavior" or wish some horrible, fatal diseases to strike them for a dumb forum post.

Learned a lot, tho:

If you want to assess the risks of cruising Trinidad, you must:
- read all reports (agreed)
- know all the stories (doubtful)
- be well aware of WW2 and avoid repeating history (huh?)
- consider the current terrorist threat level in the Netherlands (huh? again)

Feeling well informed now, I'll be leaving this thread since it seems to have hit rock bottom ... or not yet, I fear, but sure to get there soon.

Merry Christmas - I hope you'll all enjoy loving and safe holidays.

[Muckle Flugga]

Originally Posted by PuttingDoctor

A flare gun at close range can start a fire in a skiff attempting a boarding move. But how about a heavier load in a long barrel 12ga. shotgun? Lob a flare or two onto the deck of the mother ship and make the third round a slug load not birdshot.

Anyone tried the flare load / fire starter with a 12 ga.? Looking for ideas.

"Mother ship"? You mean, like, Indian Ocean/Somali pirates? Oh well… As Bulawayo is correct to say, mostly they are history, but if you did encounter pirates who were sophisticated enough to have "skiffs" and "mother ships" (say around the Bight of Benin or off Nigeria) your little firecracker would be being attempted to be lobbed onto the deck of a boat equipped with belt fed LMGs, Rocket Propelled Grenades, and plenty of automatic small arms. How'd you like those odds?

As to ideas… see my list above.

[Raythesailor]

Originally Posted by powsmias

arrogant nation? i have two words for you but they can't be posted here.. they would adress you and your mother. viciously, and cancer wishes come to mind as well. fo

That exactly sums it up. What a nice person you obviously are.

Happy Christmas

[reed1v]

Originally Posted by PuttingDoctor

A flare gun at close range can start a fire in a skiff attempting a boarding move. But how about a heavier load in a long barrel 12ga. shotgun? Lob a flare or two onto the deck of the mother ship and make the third round a slug load not birdshot.

Anyone tried the flare load / fire starter with a 12 ga.? Looking for ideas.

You do know that will get you certainly killed, if not by the bad guys, then by the police. AK-47s are ubiquitous, corrupt officials everywhere(including US), and once you try to take revenge your really sealing your death warrant.

[powsmias]

Originally Posted by Lizzy Belle

That comment was rude, offensive, uninformed and made no sense, and I was with you until



Seriously? You'd wish that one someone for making a stupid forum post?

Pfffft. This thread is showing me some sides of people I'd rather not see.

Learned a lot, tho:

If you want to assess the risks of cruising Trinidad, you must:
- read all reports (agreed)
- know all the stories (doubtful)
- be well aware of WW2 and avoid repeating history (huh?)
- consider the current terrorist threat level in the Netherlands (huh? again)

Feeling well informed now, I'll be leaving this thread since it seems to have hit rock bottom ... or not yet but sure to get there.

Let me spell it out for you.. anyone, ANYONE disrespecting my country and the gloves are off.. he drew first blood..

[powsmias]

Originally Posted by Raythesailor

That exactly sums it up. What a nice person you obviously are.

Happy Christmas

and you should thank our arrogant asses that you're not speaking german

[Muckle Flugga]

Well, I think that about does it for me for this thread.

Merry Christmas everyone!

[hodgmo]

"If it helps open just one or two eyes to the truth it's worth it."

What's the truth about Peter Blake?

[powsmias]

Originally Posted by hodgmo

"If it helps open just one or two eyes to the truth it's worth it."

What's the truth about Peter Blake?

outgunned,no watches and then malfunction of weapon

[GoingWalkabout]

Originally Posted by Raythesailor

Maybe if people like you and your arrogant nation stopped sending missiles and drones from somewhere over the horizon to kill thousands of innocent Arabs the planet would be afar safer place. You have little to be proud of as a nation. Stay in your own back yard and the rest of the world might eventually get back to normal.

Ray. You are a misguided ........ These cockroaches need to be exterminated. Your friendly Arabs are cutting the throats of non believers, raping and murdering, enslaving women and children. You probably missed seeing their propaganda video of them cutting off the heads of those christians on the beach. You also probably missed seeing them burning alive their prisoners. And you probably missed hearing about the terror attacks against civilians in Paris and Colorado. The USA has a lot to be proud of. Liberating most of Europe from Hitler. Holding back the dictatorial and despotic Soviets from enslaving more people around the world. Providing more charity and assistance to the people than any other nation on earth combined.

I'm an Australian and a permanent legal resident of the USA. I am very thankful to the USA in saving my home country from the Japanese and very happy to have a home in the greatest freedom loving democracy in the World, the United States of America.

It takes a special kind of person to call the good guys the bad guys and the evil doers the innocent. You sir have have become the lowest form of humanity in my eyes. I for one would shun you and have nothing to do with you. You and your comments are despicable.

[mdvick]

I looked on Facebook and could not find the story...

[svlamorocha]

Originally Posted by Muckle Flugga

2. I carry several hundred meters of 3 and 4mm dyneema line aboard, capable of being trailed behind the boat and also launched out the sides in 30 meter lengths (wrapped around weighted cork balls) with a "wild sling". These are effective prop tanglers. Floating, and stronger than steel.

Thanks for the tip!

[reed1v]

As this board descends into incivility , i will add one last thing. The vast majority of folks around the world are decent lots who will help rather than hurt others. We sailed for 40 years and never had a problem, and most of our fellow cruisers we met did not have problems either . There are usually reasons why some attract bad times. Simple precautions will keep you out of troubles. Therre really are no reasons to go looking for trouble.