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Old 13-01-2014, 22:44   #16
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Ok I know Bob Dylan, but wtf, is this Pardy chap.

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Old 13-01-2014, 22:54   #17
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Re: Taleisin for sale

Don Street also had a very high price on his boat Iolaire. It went unsold for a very long time. IIRC he wanted the right to sail her for a while every year after he no longer owned her. I don't think folks are as blinded by the light of celebrity as the celebrities think. Taleisin will sell for a premium but I doubt anything like the asking price. Time will tell. I too wish the Pardeys well. While their cruising style was unusual they showed that two people could really do it in a small boat, and are responsible for many of us getting out there. (Should we blame them for the crowds now?)

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Old 13-01-2014, 23:01   #18
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Jeezuz, it's an asking price only. Everyone knows when you sell a boat you are not going to get the asking price, or anywhere near it in the current climate. So why would you put an asking price too low?
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Old 13-01-2014, 23:04   #19
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Don Street also had a very high price on his boat Iolaire. It went unsold for a very long time. IIRC he wanted the right to sail her for a while every year after he no longer owned her. I don't think folks are as blinded by the light of celebrity as the celebrities think. Taleisin will sell for a premium but I doubt anything like the asking price. Time will tell. I too wish the Pardeys well. While their cruising style was unusual they showed that two people could really do it in a small boat, and are responsible for many of us getting out there. (Should we blame them for the crowds now?)

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Unusual? How so? Apart from the well known engineless thing, you do know they started in 1969, when the way they sailed was probably 'very usual'.
Heck, they even had a GPS on their last major ocean crossing.
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Old 13-01-2014, 23:12   #20
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Btw, I have just finished reading the Herb McCormick autobiography 'As long as it's fun'. It really is a no holds barred book, and McCormick is a bloody good writer - and one has to hand it to the Pardeys for allowing McCormick to put the microscope on them, good, bad & indifferent. I'd recommend the book to any sailor, whether you like the Pardeys, are neutral, or the mere thought of them makes you want to take an axe to hull of the wood boat next to you in the marina!
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Old 14-01-2014, 01:46   #21
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The Pardeys sailed the oceans when few others were. It was done with celestial navigation and rudimentary tools. The average metrosexual sailor today would never be able to even contemplate doing the voyages they pulled off given their tools. There were no Ipads,GPS,computers of any sorts plus they did it all without a motor or electrical systems.
I read many of their books and like others I was captivated by their adventures, their stories more than anything else got me out there. I never measured up as while I did use a sextant as GPS wasn't around I still liked electricity but I was for the first time in my life a minimalist of sorts and really enjoyed it.
Like others here I have no interest in wood boats but I wish them well in getting top dollar for their boat as I do any cruiser and I also wish them well in the coming years.
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Old 14-01-2014, 03:31   #22
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If I win the lottery in the next while... I will give them $200,000.00 for the boat ... Then donate it to some sailing school
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I greatly respect the Pardys and their sailing ability. However, I find the need for a 85K USD price tag on a 1980s 30 footer to be more than perplexing. Admittedly we all know the boat has been impeccably looked after and has a wonderful history. It still doesnt warrant that price sadly unless some corporate folks want to pick it up.
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It really doesn't matter what you guys think the boat's worth, 'cause you're not going to buy it. The only opinion that matters is that of the person who writes the check and sails it away. They made a tidy sum when they sold Seraphyn, and I'm sure they'll get a premium for Taleisin as well.

I've also just finished reading "As Long As It's Fun". I highly recommend it as a really good narrative of the Pardy's sailing lives. One of the interesting facets was how little money they needed to maintain their lifestyle over the years. The money they got from the sale of Seraphyn was the biggest chunk of cash they ever had.
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... I find the need for a 85K USD price tag on a 1980s 30 footer to be more than perplexing. ...

I ran NZ$175,000 through Google's currency converter and it said that was about US$146,500.
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Do I take it the Pardeys are giving up cruising?
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Old 14-01-2014, 06:44   #27
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I believe a P.T. Barnum (spelling?) quote applies about someone being born every minute.

A 40 yr old wood boat sparsely outfitted, even in great condition, isn't worth much. If it wasn't for the name associated with it, you would be lucky to get $10k for it.

If they get it, good for them as long as they are honest and up front about everything.
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I believe there are some health issues.
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The Pardeys sailed the oceans when few others were. It was done with celestial navigation and rudimentary tools. .
Actually you'd be surprised if you knew how many sailed the oceans in small boats in the late fifties and early sixties. You just never heard from them. They just did it and celestial was the way everybody did it. No big deal. It's not a black art. I met quite a few when I was in the merchant navy on runs through Oceania. What they lacked most in those days were cruising guides and Admiralty Sailing Directions were expensive. More than a few times small boat sailors would ask to come aboard to check our volumes of sailing directions to see what their next landfall looked like. They would copy it all out in longhand and treasure it. I think the Pardeys followed the Hiscocks in writing about it and making it into a living.
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I don't!

I hope they get a reasonable price for a small old enginless boat and that no one is ripped off by being stupid enough to buy a boat beacuse of the previous owners abilities.
Couldn't agree more! A price like that sounds like "entitlement" to me. Can't stand that.
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