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Old 16-02-2018, 10:44   #16
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It’s not going to last long.
I guess it’s bilge pump is inop, with all that Solar and wind it should have had power, until the water got to the bank anyway.
Why were they rescued?
Probably thought the book and movie would be worth more than the boat? If you recall the original account it sounded some what questionable.
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A question not yet asked is this: "Why did that Naval Person speak so well of them???"

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A question not yet asked is this: "Why did that Naval Person speak so well of them???"

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There are several possibilities. First, and perhaps most likely, he may have just been polite. In today's politically correct environment this is a real possibility.

The second option is he really doesn't know seamanship and is a PR person and/or is in some sort of technical position that doesn't require anything other than a very rudimentary knowledge of seamanship.

The last option is that the media spun things or incompetently got the details wrong and that they really did a decent job. I read their reply to the media on their GoFundMe page and it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

Of the three, I'm guessing course of action one is the answer.
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After the rescue why wasn't the boat scuttled? Honest question.
Main reason, still floating!
Also, Scuddling would add more plastic pollution and fuel/ oil to the already heavily polluted Ocean. Why, other than a Navigational Hazard would you scuddle it.
Someone could fly out there and well, salvage rights, sail it into port.
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Main reason, still floating!
Also, Scuddling would add more plastic pollution and fuel/ oil to the already heavily polluted Ocean. Why, other than a Navigational Hazard would you scuddle it.
Someone could fly out there and well, salvage rights, sail it into port.
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It will still sink at some stage. Apparently soon, as it has taken water already.
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The question was really rhetorical :-)

It's always appropriate to be polite, of course, and one would expect a Naval Person to be so. A "we are glad to have been of service" is obviously appropriate, but a "they did a good job" seems to me to be unnecessary, and apt to cast aspersions on the judgement of the hossifer in question.

I find myself more and more out of patience with the times. There was a time when men in uniform did not, except for the very highest ranks, and then only after obtaining clearance, speak to the media.

It struck me, viewing one of the videos available this morning, that, unless my wonkey eyes deceive me, their genny was tidily furled, sheets neatly attached. In the position where they were "rescued", Marine Traffic shows that the wind, this ayem, is NW 10 - 15. It seems incredible to me that in five months of diddling about "off course" in a "damaged" boat, they should not have had such winds and have been able to make their way back to Hawaii. MyBeloved who's picked up the fundamentals of navigation just looking over my shoulder was shaking her head. "You CAN'T go that far off track", she said. "You just CAN'T!"

But I wasn't there, so I can't know. And everyone, these days, "deserves" fifteen minutes of fame :-)

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OK, I know it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt, but what about salvage? She is still afloat. Bad mojo?
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OK, I know it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt, but what about salvage? She is still afloat. Bad mojo?
Its a big ocean out there.. this was come across by chance.. where is she now.
You could pass 3 miles from her and not see her.. maybe less with a bit of sea.
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The question was really rhetorical :-)

It's always appropriate to be polite, of course, and one would expect a Naval Person to be so. A "we are glad to have been of service" is obviously appropriate, but a "they did a good job" seems to me to be unnecessary, and apt to cast aspersions on the judgement of the hossifer in question.

I find myself more and more out of patience with the times. There was a time when men in uniform did not, except for the very highest ranks, and then only after obtaining clearance, speak to the media.

And everyone, these days, "deserves" fifteen minutes of fame :-)

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In October 2017, two women and their dogs were rescued by the crew of the USS Ashland. Recently the abandoned vessel was spotted by Volvo Ocean Race's "Turn The Tide On Plastic."

The Volvo boat crew got some drone footage that is now on YouTube:





The boat looks to be riding low in the water, bow down, but otherwise relatively intact.

For a little information on "Turn The Tide On Plastic" check out this Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_the_Tide_on_Plastic
Oh...it looks so lonely.
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Its a big ocean out there.. this was come across by chance.. where is she now.
You could pass 3 miles from her and not see her.. maybe less with a bit of sea.
Great point. It would be just a chance meeting.
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"After the rescue why wasn't the boat scuttled? Honest question."
Do you have any idea how expensive ammunition is?
Since it was in the middle of nowhere, endangering nothing, and potentially sinking it could be seen as grounds for a lawsuit (can't salvage it if it is sunk out there)...The Navy ignored it. Not their problem.

Now as to salvage...
If you want to spend the money to charter a C130, or whatever can get out there and try to spot the boat again, fast, before it moves. And you can put together a salvage crew, including repair parts and provisions for maybe a month to cover your landfall somewhere....Sure, you can invest fifty or a hundred grand to salvage a boat that has been so extensively kludged that it probably is worth five grand on a good day. Oh, remember you may need to take sails out with you too, or a new engine. It is unclear whether anything still works on that boat.
Gotta move fast though, before you lose it again.
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No need for ammunition.. just cut or remove a hose from a through hull fitting.. making sure the seacock is open of course..
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I guess some one looked it up, Oct.. It smelt like fish then a little riper smell with this info. if legit..
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Whether the Captain chooses to use a vessel for target practice (a bona fide need) or perhaps simply chooses not to risk having any crew on a vessel that is going to be sinking...for some reason their practice is to shoot the hell out of a boat in order to sink it. Not to just open the seacocks. (Open seacock, slip in companionway, drown with boat. Board of inquiry will never be happy with that one.)

I'm only commenting on what news keeps getting back to me. Above my pay grade to ask or explain why they decide to do it that way. (Maybe firing lots of guns is considered good PR.)

OTOH there's a story that keeps going around about an assist from the battleship New Jersey (?) off the California coast in the 70's. Supposedly, they just swung out a recovery crane and took someone's sailboat on board, all the way back to port. Nice to have resources that size.(G)
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