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Old 22-02-2011, 16:25   #91
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Boatman, looks like we'll need a bigger boat.
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Re: 'Quest' Crew Killed

People are saying that the Quest crew were doing missionary work. Some say they were not but were handing out bibles to people who wanted them.

Seems to me that if you get grabbed by a bunch of American hating Muslims, explaining away one bible as personal most likely would work. Perhaps even two or 3. What happens if they find a couple of boxes of them? We will never know what happened. It seems there was a falling out amongst thieves and two of them were shot by their own people. Perhaps one of them decide to kill the 4, and two objected. Or more likely two decided to do it and were killed by their buddies. The Navy says most of them were already on deck, hands up when the RIB got there.

As for the daft idea of a rescue, someone please explain how a boat load of Seals can got on a 50 foot boat loaded with 23 people and do it quietly and without being seen so they can get in position to do an assault.

Maybe in Hollywood, but I'm pretty sure it can't be done in the real world.


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Old 22-02-2011, 16:47   #94
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I'm upset that our Navy was close enough to hear the crew being shot and did nothing about it. Very, very disturbing news all around.
Had the Navy tried a armed boarding and the hostages ended up killed also you would be the first one on here complaining about that. Once the shots were heard it was essentially over for the hostages. At great personal risk Navy seals stormed the yacht as soon as shots were fired. I can tell you have zero military experience and for some reason can't comprehend how difficult it can be to board a boat on the open sea. Compound that with the fact there were 19 hijackers with 4 hostages and the best course of action is to negotiate as they were doing right up to the moment the shots were fired.
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Personally, I'd use divers to pierce the hull and start her sinking. Then, rescue the lot of them.
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I reckon the Navy's Seals should have pulled up on the port side and distracted the Pirates by tossing balls back and forth with lots of flipper clapping and Oink's.... while they were distracting said baddies... the marines storm the stbd side and kick em over the side for the Seal's to finish off...
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Personally, I'd use divers to pierce the hull and start her sinking. Then, rescue the lot of them.
Been waiting for this...............

That's what I was thinking.

I bet they thought of it too as I am pretty sure three or four American warships combined have a couple of folks (at least ) that are smarter and more experienced than myself.

Full story at 11.....................years.................maybe .
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Personally, I'd use divers to pierce the hull and start her sinking. Then, rescue the lot of them.
No need. Divers could've easily fouled the prop and stopped her dead in her tracks. Detailed plans are available on MondayMorningQB.com.
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Dead in the water is worse. Gives them too much time to think and react.
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Mod's and Admins,
Have you searched to see if the Quest crew were members of CF as well?
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Btw, are any of you familiar with John Boyd and the OODA loop? (check out his wiki page if you want). Surreptitiously causing the boat to start sinking sorta reminds me of him. It gets inside their decision making loop and gives you the advantage.
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I have wondered what technological wonders might be useful in a situation like this. Maybe a combination of infrared/millimeter wave radar/X-rays/ +?? that would essentially allow rescue personnel to see "through" the hull -- or at least to detect the location of human body masses. At some point, if all four tied/bound/non-mobile hostage masses are detected bundled up in the V berth, and all the pirates move into the salon for dinner. . . you could take them out with a sustained burst of automatic fire. Dream on, I guess, but it does seem like something feasible in this day and age.
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There's been like 15 negative posts about Rolf's comment. Doesn't anyone think that's enough?
Let's see, we have arm chair quarterbacks, arm chair sailors, and now arm chair mercenaries. Kill - Kill - Kill -
Wow, this is really enlightening.
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There's been like 15 negative posts about Rolf's comment. Doesn't anyone think that's enough?
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Did you really count them?
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This thread has been to stray some from waht is acceptable here on the forum. I realise that under the circumstances people do feel a need to express some frustration but it will be closed if you don't take a moment and think about what you're posting; keep it within the guidelines for posting at CF and the thread will be able to continue.

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