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Old 03-12-2015, 11:12   #241
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Re: Oyster Problems?

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Huh. That's interesting. A link to where to find them might be helpful.

Just so there's not any ambiguity here, the pictures showed a careless, sloppy build of a structure that most here would feel was so undersized as to be possibly criminally negligent.

Shame on Oyster, or rather, the selfish clowns who now own Oyster.
For the ones that want to see the pictures it is possible to find them here:

Ойстер. На дне.

That is the Russian magazine that published them first. Translate also the article. It is very interesting.
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FYI, An interesting article on keel failures: Keel failure: the shocking facts - Yachting World
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Old 03-12-2015, 13:07   #243
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Re: Oyster Problems?

Polux:

Thank you very much for posting the link again. Shocking pix. Interesting article.
Good on ya.

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FACT 6:
we made a video from the life raft, it show the two rudders pointing the sky perfectly intacs, a big hole in to the hull; the relic float upside down all night long, the following morning we found the boat still floating about 15 miles from the capsizing point, one missing rudder, the other one partially broken.
What do you think could have caused the damage to the rudders?
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During the night after the accident, I think somebody has tryed to tow the boat ( maybe hoping to get some money for the salvage)
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During the night after the accident, I think somebody has tryed to tow the boat ( maybe hoping to get some money for the salvage)
I wondered the same and makes sense.
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Folks we have removed several posts that contained images that are the subject of a copyrights complaint from Yacht Magazine who affirm ownership of these images.

Please do not post images taken from another website here - you may post images that you have taken but not those taken by others unless consent is granted (directly to the forum). Thanks for understanding.
Please put the pics back up. Even a first-year law student could assure you that doing so falls under "fair use", and is completely legal. They are incredibly important to this discussion - this event could have ended in a fatality, and these build issues may still exist on other hulls, still out there sailing.

"Section 107 of the Copyright Act states:

The fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright."
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Old 06-12-2015, 14:55   #248
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For the ones that want to see the pictures it is possible to find them here:

Ойстер. На дне.

That is the Russian magazine that published them first. Translate also the article. It is very interesting.
I quite agree.

The translation I got was imperfect, but does allow one to get the idea, anyway, and the pictures well worth the effort to bother to use the link.

Thanks, Polux.

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For the ones that want to see the pictures it is possible to find them here:

Ойстер. На дне.

That is the Russian magazine that published them first. Translate also the article. It is very interesting.
Yep thanks for posting the link again.
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Has this been posted?

ANOTHER MAJOR KEEL FAILURE: What Really Happened to Polina Star III? | Sailfeed

Lots of photos.
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It hasn't, mostly because the majority of it is parsed or directly taken from this thread! Thanks though.

I assume the mods are now not going to remove this post as well? It is now surely indubitable that these photos are, and will remain, in the public domain. No?
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Please put the pics back up. Even a first-year law student could assure you that doing so falls under "fair use", and is completely legal. They are incredibly important to this discussion - this event could have ended in a fatality, and these build issues may still exist on other hulls, still out there sailing.

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Sorry to put my nose on this, but if this is true, hell yeah those pictures are worth in gold in a public forum...
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It hasn't, mostly because the majority of it is parsed or directly taken from this thread! Thanks though.



I assume the mods are now not going to remove this post as well? It is now surely indubitable that these photos are, and will remain, in the public domain. No?

Kinda not really any new reporting there. That blog will probably be getting a call to their lawyers about now.

It is not "fair use" to use copyrighted photos in a money making venture which this web site is. The mods were correct to remove them IMO.
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Kinda not really any new reporting there. That blog will probably be getting a call to their lawyers about now.

It is not "fair use" to use copyrighted photos in a money making venture which this web site is. The mods were correct to remove them IMO.
Fair enough
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