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Old 27-12-2010, 05:21   #1
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Heard this rescue on ch16 yesterday. 6 people plucked out of the water by CG helo off the coast here (Daytona Beach). Gale force winds , CG instructed them to jump into the water one at a time and lifted them out with the basket. Flew them to Melbourne, FL. Didn't get the name but it was a sailboat.
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Old 27-12-2010, 05:27   #2
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Coast Guard rescues 6 off Ponce Inlet - Local News - Daytona Beach, FL - msnbc.com
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Old 27-12-2010, 06:49   #3
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Seems like east coast not a good place to be lately.marc
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Old 27-12-2010, 08:50   #4
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Seems like east coast not a good place to be lately.marc
Its been brutal lately...front after front after front since thanksgiving it seems. Our club regatta was postponed to a day that was supposed to be calm...and in came another nother. Came in 12 hours early (thanks NOAA). Winds up to 35 knots caused 7 out of 12 boats to have to withdraw with some kind of gear failure. One poor guy lost his engine. To top it off, committee boat was swamped by waves and sank to the gunnels before being rescued. Hearing that mayday was heartwrenching...but thankfully all that was lost was a few sets of racing marks.
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Anyone know the make, model and homeport of this sailboat? 30 miles offshore seems like they were passagemaking south...but in the teeth of the gulfstream.
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Old 27-12-2010, 08:57   #6
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Here in Bermuda, we just started into another 3 days of 35-45knts, gusting regularly to 55knts.
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My heart goes out to them; even as i wonder about going out to look for the boat
What happens to the abandoned boats in such circumstances?

Im in melbourne and it was sloppy as F yesterday. I've never seen "hazourdos conditions" warning for the intercoastal before!
Makes one wonder if this is the new normal weather pattern.
Beat up by wind then frozen every other week seems to be the norm here.
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My heart goes out to them; even as i wonder about going out to look for the boat
What happens to the abandoned boats in such circumstances?
Most of the time, they sink. A captain is usually pretty reluctant to leave a boat that has hull integrity and not sinking or disabled, unless thye lost the rig, rudder or other key component of gear. Being 30 miles offshore seems within the range of TowBoatUs or Sea Tow...which makes me believe that the vessel was probably sunk.

You never know...sometimes they wash up on shore...sometimes you find them ghosting along the horse lattitudes, hauntingly empty with shredded sails. There was a pictorial a while back of a boat seen from a freighter in a ghost-ship condition...turned out to be some singlehander but you never find out what happened to the captain (shivers just thinking about that).

Sometimes they're found by someone and "salvaged"...here they be dragons.
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It has not sunk. CG put out position and it is floating, hazard to navigation. It's a tri.
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The Gulf Stream, etc.

The Stream does move around a bit, but along the FL east coast it typically runs almost due northerly, east of 80* West....
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30 miles offshore seems like they were passagemaking south...but in the teeth of the gulfstream.
With the western wall of the stream 44 nm of Ponce Inlet (~ 51 stat miles), and the news report stating the vessel was "about 30 miles east of Ponce Inlet", I'm not sure I'd say they were in the "teeth of the Stream", but if making their way southward, they probably should've been about 10 - 15 miles closer in....maybe passing Cape Cannaveral about 5 miles out or so...

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THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE WEST WALL OF THE GULF STREAM
BASED ON SATELLITE DATA AS OF THURSDAY DECEMBER 30 AT 2 AM...

44 NAUTICAL MILES EAST OF PONCE INLET.
32 NAUTICAL MILES EAST OF PORT CANAVERAL.
28 NAUTICAL MILES EAST OF SEBASTIAN INLET.
22 NAUTICAL MILES EAST OF FORT PIERCE INLET.
12 NAUTICAL MILES EAST OF SAINT LUCIE INLET


And, as for most abandoned boats being sunk????
That's not been my experience reading the reports / stories, I see many (most) are still seaworthy and flaoting fine.....and many find their way to shore/harbor and/or across the sea, all on their own....
Most abandon ship recuses, offshore, in stormy seas, are because of crew fatigue / injury, not because of a sinking boat.....


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Wasn't it that more than half the abandoned boats (including with crews never found) in the Fastnet storm were found floating afterwards?

"Step up into your life raft."
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Wasn't it that more than half the abandoned boats (including with crews never found) in the Fastnet storm were found floating afterwards?

"Step up into your life raft."
I only find 23 of 306 yachts lost or abandonded... but you'd not be far out I'd reckon...
125 rescued and 15 fatalities... some over rated Pop star of the era was involved if memory serves me well....
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Of 303 boats starting, 85 finished the race, 194 retired, 19 boats were abandoned but later recovered, 5 boats sank, and 15 crew members were lost.
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It has not sunk. CG put out position and it is floating, hazard to navigation. It's a tri.
I'll let you know if it shows up , here in Bermuda. We usually find 1 or 2 of some sort every year. Customs recently sold some big twin engine boat, don't know if it was inboard or outboards.
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It's one thing to be caught in a storm at sea, but they seem to have made the choice to be where they were. Gale warnings were in effect(this was the same front that caused the blizzard in the NE.) a couple of days before. Maybe I'm a chicken but I think if I had a couple days warning I would be in safe harbor rather than be at the edge of the gulf stream in a north current with a NW gale.
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