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Old 29-03-2008, 05:18   #1
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New requirements for current Licensed Captains.

It has been brought to my attention that we will need a Tansportation Worker identifacation Credential. The way I understand it is that all United States Coast guard Captains will be required to comply. Here is the information. TSA: Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC™)
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Old 29-03-2008, 16:29   #2
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Who must get a TWIC?

An estimated one million individuals will be required to obtain a TWIC. This includes Coast Guard-credentialed merchant mariners, port facility employees, longshoremen, truck drivers, and others requiring unescorted access to secure areas of maritime facilities and vessels regulated by MTSA.

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It is not intended for use by companies or employees working in locations or fields unrelated to activities regulated by MTSA.

- from the FAQ on the website you gave. Italics are mine.

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Old 29-03-2008, 16:32   #3
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"requiring unescorted access to secure areas of maritime facilities and vessels regulated by MTSA."

Is how I read it also, since as a licensed Captain I do not fall into this group I don't see how this would apply to me.
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Old 29-03-2008, 16:38   #4
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Dan,

Not sure what you intended, but the TWIC clearly affects ALL U.S. Coast Guard licensed merchant mariners. See: TSA: Frequently Asked Questions

Chuck -- you can't get off that easy!

Damn. Double-damn. They could at least have chosen a slightly different name for which the acronym would have been, "TWIT" (after the person or persons who thought up this mess).

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Bill, After reading your link it looks like it does affect all of us. Initially it was to provide ID for those that had access to security areas in ports, etc. I have read in some places that everyone had to apply by the Sept. 2008 deadline but according to your link it will be done at renewal for existing licenses.
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wow, wut fun. I had to drive all the way to miami to give them "electronic fingerprints" as my ink prints were no longer enough wonder how far i will have to drive for this one.
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Dan,

Not sure what you intended...
What I intended was to miss-interpret the text.

I read:
The people affected were: "Coast Guard-credentialed merchant mariners, port facility employees, longshoremen, truck drivers, and others"

And they were affected if: "requiring unescorted access to secure areas of maritime facilities and vessels regulated by MTSA".

When, looking back I think it's obvious it says:
The people affected are: "Coast Guard-credentialed merchant mariners, port facility employees, longshoremen, truck drivers" AND "others requiring unescorted access to secure areas of maritime facilities and vessels regulated by MTSA".

And your quote from the other FAQ makes it even more obvious.

I was a little quick on the cut-n-paste and didn't read it carefully enough.

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Bill, After reading your link it looks like it does affect all of us. Initially it was to provide ID for those that had access to security areas in ports, etc. I have read in some places that everyone had to apply by the Sept. 2008 deadline but according to your link it will be done at renewal for existing licenses.
Least we confuse an already confusing issue. The MMC CREDENTIAL is what the USCG is going to update at renual, this does not (seem to) remove the requirement for us to obtain the TWIC.

Quote from the link;

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If the MMC proposed rulemaking is finalized as currently written, the Coast Guard would begin issuing the MMC in September of 2008 and would phase in the replacement of mariner's current credentials over a period of five years. Mariners would be issued their credential in the form of an MMC at the time they renew their current credential, or when applying for a new credential. The proposed rulemaking would not affect the validity of a mariner's current credential.
So it seems as though we are all going to have to get this $132 ID card before Sept 2008 even if we do not need access to any secure areas...
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I just renewed my license and I was NOT required to get a TWIC. I would suggest calling your regional exam center and getting it from the horses mouth rather than relying on internet hearsay.
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No, the TSA (not the USCG) is the TWIC controlling activity. The USCG would not have an interst in making it a requirement (maybe after the Sept 2008 deadline).

Too bad there is not more cooperation on this, most of the application requirements for the TWIC are already on file with the USCG.....
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Ahhh...that's it. Thanks
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Did that TWIC thing last month. It is indeed required for all licensed captains.
Cost me $132.50 and valid to 2013.

Tax deductible anyway.
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Did that TWIC thing last month. It is indeed required for all licensed captains.
Cost me $132.50 and valid to 2013.

Tax deductible anyway.
Which office did you go to? Did you 'pre-register'? How painful did they make the process?

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Did that TWIC thing last month. It is indeed required for all licensed captains.
Cost me $132.50 and valid to 2013.

Tax deductible anyway.
There is some inconsistency then because I renewed out of the Oakland REC three months ago and was only required to renew my Z-Card (as always).

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I just did the pre-register on their website: https://twicprogram.tsa.dhs.gov/TWICWebApp/index.jsp

Easy.

Have appt. scheduled later this week. Will report back.

By the way, at the bottom of their "what to take with you" list, it says that if you take your Merchant Mariners license or document you qualify for a "reduced fee". We'll see!

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