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Old 23-03-2016, 02:36   #46
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No.. just its time folks faced reality.. look at the history of exploitation and the games that have been played in S American countries.. look at Cuba.. these are all primarily Spanish speaking countries who've been screwed over and for one reason or the other hold non Spanish speakers responsible.. you may not like it.. but its a fact.
Just have to watch the cruise ships disgorge and listen to the visitors talk disparagingly about the locals in front of them..
I remember being in the 'Barefoot Breakfast Bar' (one of the very few locally owned and all black staffed eateries prime location if it still exists) in Phillipsburg with 4 pigs at the next table trying to decide on their second breakfast around 10-30am.. likely the 'Trough' on board had worn off.. the waitress whom I knew was standing waiting for the order while they made rude comments about her to each other.. bit like the Saudi's in London..
I quietly hoped she spat on every [plate before she served them..
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PS: Before folk start the Anti-American/Semitic/Racist/Bigot etc rants.. I am not.. I just don't wander round in a blinkered world of home grown propaganda..
We have seen similar and not once but many many times. We have to live there for a bit and really get upset and more than once I have had a word with the folks. It usually did not end up very pleasant but the locals heard me and appreciated what I had to say. I am generally not a confrontational person but when it gets out of hand I will say something - And it is not just Americans, we have seen it from folks from the EU, Canada and let's not forget the Orientals as we have seen really bad behavior from them and talking with locals they really dislike them. We were sitting in a restaurant in Croatia someplace with a lot of empty tables and asked the waitress about them and she said tour group -- we were almost the only ones there and we chatted with her and had a nice time until the Oriental tour group came in and we asked if she wanted us to move to a smaller table - she said no you stay we make them fit - and watched them treat her like crap - she came over a couple of times to see if we wanted more wine and we said no but got a couple of glasses anyway - like a herd of buffalo they all got up and left and she came over and chatted a bit and was relieved they were gone and then the owner came out and gave us a sweet for just being us and we stayed a bit longer - oh she got a huge tip -
As for Americans I have no problem getting into their face if we hear them talking bad about the locals -
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Brits below a certain age have terrible name in the Med.. used to be the Balearic's but the last 10yrs or so has seen them spread to Greece.. puking, fighting, public group blow jobs for Facebook.. its seriously sad.. thankfully because of my appearance I'm often taken for German or Scandanavian.. even by the Brit time share and ticket touts..
or an Aussie because of the hat.. Thank you Paul Hogan..
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We have seen similar and not once but many many times. We have to live there for a bit and really get upset and more than once I have had a word with the folks. It usually did not end up very pleasant but the locals heard me and appreciated what I had to say. I am generally not a confrontational person but when it gets out of hand I will say something - And it is not just Americans, we have seen it from folks from the EU, Canada and let's not forget the Orientals as we have seen really bad behavior from them and talking with locals they really dislike them. We were sitting in a restaurant in Croatia someplace with a lot of empty tables and asked the waitress about them and she said tour group -- we were almost the only ones there and we chatted with her and had a nice time until the Oriental tour group came in and we asked if she wanted us to move to a smaller table - she said no you stay we make them fit - and watched them treat her like crap - she came over a couple of times to see if we wanted more wine and we said no but got a couple of glasses anyway - like a herd of buffalo they all got up and left and she came over and chatted a bit and was relieved they were gone and then the owner came out and gave us a sweet for just being us and we stayed a bit longer - oh she got a huge tip -
As for Americans I have no problem getting into their face if we hear them talking bad about the locals -
Talk about stereotyping...Oriental is the culture (food, furnishings, style). The people are Asian, not Oriental.
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"Brits below a certain age have terrible name in the Med.. used to be the Balearic's but the last 10yrs or so has seen them spread to Greece.. puking, fighting, public group blow jobs for Facebook.. " Boatman

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You have forgotten the importance/prevalence of Viking DNA to the British population . . . sounds like "History repeats itself." Good luck raping, pillaging and plundering! Captain Rognvald--Viking in remission
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We have seen similar and not once but many many times. We have to live there for a bit and really get upset and more than once I have had a word with the folks. It usually did not end up very pleasant but the locals heard me and appreciated what I had to say. I am generally not a confrontational person but when it gets out of hand I will say something - And it is not just Americans, we have seen it from folks from the EU, Canada and let's not forget the Orientals as we have seen really bad behavior from them and talking with locals they really dislike them. We were sitting in a restaurant in Croatia someplace with a lot of empty tables and asked the waitress about them and she said tour group -- we were almost the only ones there and we chatted with her and had a nice time until the Oriental tour group came in and we asked if she wanted us to move to a smaller table - she said no you stay we make them fit - and watched them treat her like crap - she came over a couple of times to see if we wanted more wine and we said no but got a couple of glasses anyway - like a herd of buffalo they all got up and left and she came over and chatted a bit and was relieved they were gone and then the owner came out and gave us a sweet for just being us and we stayed a bit longer - oh she got a huge tip -
As for Americans I have no problem getting into their face if we hear them talking bad about the locals -
well done! No Nation, No Country, No Race has the corner on buttholeizim. I like to tell them, It's all in the attitude stupid!
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"Brits below a certain age have terrible name in the Med.. used to be the Balearic's but the last 10yrs or so has seen them spread to Greece.. puking, fighting, public group blow jobs for Facebook.. " Boatman

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You have forgotten the importance/prevalence of Viking DNA to the British population . . . sounds like "History repeats itself." Good luck raping, pillaging and plundering! Captain Rognvald--Viking in remission
True.. however the Vikings used to rape and pillage the people of those countries they arrived in..
Sadly however due to the progressive dumbing down of educational standards in the UK that simple fact is lost to the 1/2 a brain cell of the invading hordes.. instead.. they land and start on each other..
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True.. however the Vikings used to rape and pillage the people of those countries they arrived in..
Sadly however due to the progressive dumbing down of educational standards in the UK that simple fact is lost to the 1/2 a brain cell of the invading hordes.. instead.. they land and start on each other..

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That's the difference when they travel in a Boeing 757 rather than a Dragonship. . . just don't get that male bonding. A furore Normanorum libera nos Domine--Oh Lord deliver us from the fury of the Northmen! Rognvald
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That's the difference when they travel in a Boeing 757 rather than a Dragonship. . . just don't get that male bonding. A furore Normanorum libera nos Domine--Oh Lord deliver us from the fury of the Northmen! Rognvald
I put it down to genetic pollution by the Normans..
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True.. however the Vikings used to rape and pillage the people of those countries they arrived in..
Sadly however due to the progressive dumbing down of educational standards in the UK that simple fact is lost to the 1/2 a brain cell of the invading hordes.. instead.. they land and start on each other..
We have the same dumbing down here in the USA. Even in the 60's there was this friendly little book called The Ugly American. More a spy novel, but still. Most Amerikuns ain't been out of their own country, if not their own county. I think most of us find that those who travel (except the cruise ship and tour group gaggles) are pretty "worldly" but the rest of 'em - just gag me. Maybe we could get the orientals to squabble with the Amerikuns and do each other all in.
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We have the same dumbing down here in the USA. Even in the 60's there was this friendly little book called The Ugly American. More a spy novel, but still. Most Amerikuns ain't been out of their own country, if not their own county. I think most of us find that those who travel (except the cruise ship and tour group gaggles) are pretty "worldly" but the rest of 'em - just gag me. Maybe we could get the orientals to squabble with the Amerikuns and do each other all in.
I thought that had already started back in the early 50's...
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I put it down to genetic pollution by the Normans..
And what a "pollution" it was . . . giving Mother England the Norman Law and Europe the impetus and spirit that led to the Renaissance through Norman architecture, art, music ,literature, science and technology. Oxford geneticist, Bryan Sykes, wrote a fascinating study of DNA of the British Isles in 2006 called "Blood of the Isles" tracing England's genetic clans. A must read for any serious Brit or student of ancestral roots. Good luck and safe sailing.
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I thought that had already started back in the early 50's...
Actually the later 50s and early 60s. 'Cuz that when I got out of grade school!

You're only two years younger than I am, so you must know I'm right, right?
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