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Old 01-04-2009, 12:02   #1
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Madoff's Yacht Seized in Florida

Taking 'Bull:' U.S. Seizes Madoff's Yacht In Florida : NPR

It was seized in Florida, but the AP photo shows it in France, with a UK yacht ensign. Unless flag etiquette is not being respected, the vessel is registered in the UK, right?

So, what are the laws about seizing a foreign-flagged vessel in U.S. waters? Just curious. The only situations I can find referenced are seizures of foreign-flagged vessels in which captain and crew are caught inflagrante, so to speak, as regards smuggling or some sort. This situation would be entirely different.

In any case, the boat itself is dog-ugly.
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So, what are the laws about seizing a foreign-flagged vessel in U.S. waters?
Perfectly legal. It would be a different story if seized in another country's waters, and kind of a grey area if seized in international waters. jmo
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A boat named "Bull" and owned by Madoff is listed in the USCG registry, but it was built in 1969 and has a 55.5' long wooden hull. The "Bull" in the photo in the article you cited shows "Georgetown" on it's plastic transom. I think it must be registered in the Cayman Islands.
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Who knows how many are after his ass ets. He won't be needing them where he's goin.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:23   #5
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A boat named "Bull" and owned by Madoff is listed in the USCG registry, but it was built in 1969 and has a 55.5' long wooden hull. The "Bull" in the photo in the article you cited shows "Georgetown" on it's plastic transom. I think it must be registered in the Cayman Islands.
presumably tax advantages?
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Definitely! You should see some of the super-mega-maxi-humongous motor yachts down here in the Caribbean flying a Cayman's Island flag.
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Definitely! You should see some of the super-mega-maxi-humongous motor yachts down here in the Caribbean flying a Cayman's Island flag.
Very odd: he's got two boats named Bull?

There's another wooden-hulled 55' boat somewhere in Florida that wasn't seized? The documentation for the 1969 boat was just re-issued in February. Alternately, I wonder if AP checked the USCG database and conflated the specs of that boat and the one seized.

EDIT ... it appears now AP is saying the boat was built in 1969 (and they're calling it an antique), so they are assuming it's the one in the database. On the surface, that looks like a much more modern design and NOT wood. Something is fishy here ...
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I think they put a photo they googled for the name Bull and that came up. Who knows who the owner of that Bull is. But they are definitely full of bull ship.
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The boat was built by Rybovich & Sons in 1969, and has a hailing port of Palm Beach, FL, according the the information listed in the documentation database. Those boats were well built and the owners usually appreciate that fact and take care of them by throwing A LOT of money at them.
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I think they put a photo they googled for the name Bull and that came up. Who knows who the owner of that Bull is. But they are definitely full of bull ship.
Yep, I think you're right. CNN has the right boat, don't know what that other photo is:

Marshals seize Madoff yacht; other raids expected - Apr. 1, 2009
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The '69 yacht is Rybovich Sportfisher. He also has a Leopard built by Rodriguez shown in the articel below, also named Bull. Very fashionable in the Med, Rodriguez is out of Monaco I believe.

LOAD OF 'BULL' IN $823 MILLION LIAR'S LOOT LIST - New York Post
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A lot of NYer's keep their boats in Georgetown, DE
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The boat name (Bull) is very clever actually. Every time his guests saw the biulls, they thought "this guy is really bullish on the market". Every time Madoff saw the bulls he though "what a lot of bull I'm feeding them".

Good for some really good smirks - as only he can deliver them.
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Shouldnt come as much of a surprise that Madoff was a master bull shipper...
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