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Old 26-12-2015, 08:14   #31
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Re: Laying on ones boom

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<pedant mode>
Lie is intransitive. Lay is transitive.
You lie on something. You lay something on something.

So correct:
lying on the boom.
laying yourself on the boom.

Incorrect:
laying on the boom.
lying yourself on the boom.

</pedant mode>

Edit: So it depends on what you are laying on the boom whether it is safe.
If it's your GF, it's probably OK. If it's her sister, it's not safe.
Thanx fur laying tht out fir us.
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Old 26-12-2015, 08:39   #32
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I still don't understand. Lie is what granny used to make soap.
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Old 26-12-2015, 08:56   #33
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Do keep in mind that topping lifts, especially those insulated/coated need to be inspected for rust frequently and replaced at first sign of wear. I learned about that the hard way when mine snapped while flaking the main in heavy seas a few years ago. Crewmember tried to help steady the boom by hanging on aft end. He was thrown into the lifelines, nearly went overboard, and was seriously bruised up by boom and combings on chest and back. Be careful, Pappy
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Old 26-12-2015, 09:26   #34
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I have kept my topping lift rigged with some slack on my boat even though have rigid vang that holds boom up. My reason was as safety measure. But I imagine a rigid vang won't likely fail suddenly. Maybe the springs would wear out, but doubt a sudden loss, right? Is it safe to remove the topping lift and stow for use when boom is used for lifting heavy objects?


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I have kept my topping lift rigged with some slack on my boat even though have rigid vang that holds boom up. My reason was as safety measure. But I imagine a rigid vang won't likely fail suddenly. Maybe the springs would wear out, but doubt a sudden loss, right? Is it safe to remove the topping lift and stow for use when boom is used for lifting heavy objects?


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"I still don't understand. Lie is what granny used to make soap."

Nope - that was lye. Harking back to a recent citation from Bandiera Rossa, it is becoming plain that to me that we need to organize a local of the International Brotherhood of Pedants :-)

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Re: Laying on ones boom

the mst and boom on that boat are totally over built so no problem the owrst thing that could happen is you break a batten or tear a batten pocket. if the main is folded correctly the battens would be parallel to the boom so not likley
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"I still don't understand. Lie is what granny used to make soap."

Nope - that was lye. Harking back to a recent citation from Bandiera Rossa, it is becoming plain that to me that we need to organize a local of the International Brotherhood of Pedants :-)

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It couldn't be a "brotherhood" as that implies
understanding and support. It would have to
be something like a "society" for several
reasons, not least of which is that brotherhood
implies only males and is less accepted in this
modern day.

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It couldn't be a "brotherhood" as that implies
understanding and support. It would have to
be something like a "society" for several
reasons, not least of which is that brotherhood
implies only males and is less accepted in this
modern day.

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It should, of course, be a chapter of "the Society for the Promotion of Pedantry". Or should that initial "t" be upper case?

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Hello everyone,

I am still a bot new at sailing we have only taking our 36" Islander out twice. This question may sound newbish but if you were to lay on your boom while sails were put away in its cover, would that damage your rigging or sails? Id assume my 145 pound body would do little in the grand scheme of the abuse it takes under wind. Thanks for your time!

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With all this talk about rigging, boom strength, and English grammar, can I ask a silly question? Why do want to lay on your boom? Do you maybe mean that you want to hang a hammock from your boom? I'm confused. Do folks ever lay on their sails on a boom? Why would you want to do that? Berths, cockpit, and deck full of stuff?
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With all this talk about rigging, boom strength, and English grammar, can I ask a silly question? Why do want to lay on your boom? Do you maybe mean that you want to hang a hammock from your boom? I'm confused. Do folks ever lay on their sails on a boom? Why would you want to do that? Berths, cockpit, and deck full of stuff?
You quoted him yourself as saying "to lay on your boom while sails were put away in its cover". I would have thought that that answers your question.

I've been on many boats where lying over the boom was the best way to tidy up a flaked main and get it all shipshape.
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You quoted him yourself as saying "to lay on your boom while sails were put away in its cover". I would have thought that that answers your question.

I've been on many boats where lying over the boom was the best way to tidy up a flaked main and get it all shipshape.
Oh. So it's about maintenance? I took it literally, as if he wished for some rest and relaxation ... laying on a boom. My bad. Please continue.
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