Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > Scuttlebutt > Cruising News & Events
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 22-01-2012, 08:22   #211
always in motion is the future
 
s/v Jedi's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
Boat: Sundeer 64
Posts: 19,001
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacG View Post
It doesn' t work that way.

@Nick

These people are "van God los" - I don't understand that they can employ such arrogance and sheer stupidity.

Edit: I feel the urge to trash this scum publicly.
Ehrmm... when they swipe my passport at immigration services they see "aboard sailing yacht Jedi" as my official address. But that doesn't make it equal to living in the country of the ensign displayed.

Child Care: it'll fit well with the socialist future of Holland... get tf out of there!

ciao!
Nick.
s/v Jedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-01-2012, 08:30   #212
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland, France
Boat: 33ft sloop
Posts: 1,091
Images: 5
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

It is for me already a passed station. I am 65+ (just) and lives of my assets.
Just finishing the boat and I am off.
MacG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-01-2012, 10:55   #213
always in motion is the future
 
s/v Jedi's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
Boat: Sundeer 64
Posts: 19,001
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacG
It is for me already a passed station. I am 65+ (just) and lives of my assets.
Just finishing the boat and I am off.
Finishing the boat?! When you're done, please come over and finish mine

Boats are never finished... Just get her sea-worthy and liveable and do rest on the way... better weather and cheaper too

ciao!
Nick.
__________________
“It’s a trap!” - Admiral Ackbar.

s/v Jedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-01-2012, 11:17   #214
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland, France
Boat: 33ft sloop
Posts: 1,091
Images: 5
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

To put things straight, firstly I bought her from the scrapheap. She is quite ok now having new engine, etc. read my earlier comments.

Your boat is divine compared to mine. But too big for the soloist I am.
As soon as I can get hold of my share in our residence, I' ll buy something that is up to my taste. Or, maybe not. You know Jan de Hartog. I met him once. We talked boats. Here on CF we share a bit of the same. Big boats, small boats, the overall LOA is not so important.
He ferried his Tjalk over to the US as deckcargo, afterwards he sailed the ICW.
That book he wrote (about that trip) is magnificent reading.

Tonight we saw the arrival of Laura in St Maarten. Everyone can see that she matured long before her age. It was good to see her mother and father together and that's so the better for Laura' s piece of mind.

Hope you agree with me.
MacG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-01-2012, 11:48   #215
always in motion is the future
 
s/v Jedi's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
Boat: Sundeer 64
Posts: 19,001
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacG View Post
To put things straight, firstly I bought her from the scrapheap. She is quite ok now having new engine, etc. read my earlier comments.
I know, no worries. All I mean is not to prepare the boat too long because time slipped away is lost forever. I've been working on my boat for 10 years now and still not finished

ciao!
Nick.
s/v Jedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-01-2012, 08:07   #216
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland, France
Boat: 33ft sloop
Posts: 1,091
Images: 5
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

That the above is recognised and established is an absolute.

" A heroine of our time" - according to The Guardian

Full article: Laura Dekker: a heroine for our times | World news | The Guardian
MacG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-01-2012, 10:27   #217
Registered User
 
deckofficer's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northern and Southern California
Boat: too many
Posts: 3,731
Images: 4
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

It was quite an arrival, lucky for the media shy Laura, she chose the out of the way place of Simpson Bay.

The last few miles


The small vessel parade


Step off to terra firma


Reunited with family


Island dignitaries


And she cleans up better than most of us after a 4400 nm leg.


pictures snagged from LauraDekker.nl de Jongste solozeiler ter wereld! -
__________________
Bob
USCG Unlimited Tonnage Open Ocean (CMA)
https://tbuckets.lefora.com/
deckofficer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-01-2012, 10:41   #218
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland, France
Boat: 33ft sloop
Posts: 1,091
Images: 5
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

Nice Bob,
Did you notice the boats flag? That girl doesn' t come back to Holland.
MacG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-01-2012, 10:56   #219
Registered User
 
deckofficer's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northern and Southern California
Boat: too many
Posts: 3,731
Images: 4
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

She said that her Dutch flag was in taters, and she hoped people would not read into it not being flown as a "statement" on her part.
__________________
Bob
USCG Unlimited Tonnage Open Ocean (CMA)
https://tbuckets.lefora.com/
deckofficer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-01-2012, 11:06   #220
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland, France
Boat: 33ft sloop
Posts: 1,091
Images: 5
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

I cannot answer that. When I sail I never carry a flag. Only approaching port I hoist visitor's and country.
MacG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-01-2012, 11:38   #221
Registered User
 
Rhapsody-NS27's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: VA, boat: Deale, MD
Boat: 1981 Nor'sea 27
Posts: 1,414
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

Quote:
Originally Posted by deckofficer View Post
And she cleans up better than most of us after a 4400 nm leg.
Very nice indeed!

That's awesome that she went out there and did what she wanted to do even though so many were against her. I'm going back to searching for my first boat now.

__________________
Daniel - Rhapsody Blog,
“A sailor’s joys are as simple as a child’s.” — Bernard Moitessier
"I don't need therapy, I just need my boat"
Rhapsody-NS27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-01-2012, 15:15   #222
Registered User
 
Hirophant's Avatar

Join Date: May 2010
Boat: Open 8 Sofa
Posts: 133
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

I'm glad she made it round ok but it's sad that she'd become so estranged from her country, I hope it gets sorted out. I recall the judge in the court case said specifically that the social services were harming not helping her mentally, but they still don't seem to have grasped this despite having had 18 months for the judges comments to sink in! (See this article from July 2010 for instance: "Since the intervention of child care authorities in her life, the girl suffered 'a serious emotional setback,' said the judge.")

Anyhow, it's a really nice looking boat she has, and red is a much better colour for a boat than (ahem) pink! I hope she keeps sailing Guppy and doesn't make a quick buck by selling it to a museum like a certain other teenage record holder did.... boats should not live in museums except perhaps for ones that are old and unseaworthy like dug up Viking longships et al.
__________________
Blue water is of itself blue water. White surf is of itself white surf.
Hirophant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-01-2012, 16:08   #223
Registered User
 
Astrid's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northern British Columbia, part of the time in Prince Rupert and part of the time on Moresby Island.
Boat: 50-ft steel Ketch
Posts: 1,884
Send a message via MSN to Astrid Send a message via Yahoo to Astrid
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

It seems she still has plans for her boat. According to her blog site:

Quote:
Then in early March I will be back in the Netherlands to attend the HISWA [ Amsterdam Boat Show, March 6 to 11, Amsterdam, HISWA RAI Amsterdam | Home ]. And then I want to sail some more with 'Gup' over to the Panama Canal again and the Pacific to New Zealand as my final destination.
__________________
'Tis evening on the moorland free,The starlit wave is still: Home is the sailor from the sea, The hunter from the hill.
Astrid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-01-2012, 16:31   #224
Registered User
 
Ozbullwinkle's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Boat: Farr 44 Ocean Racer - Pit crew & backup helm.
Posts: 675
Images: 16
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hirophant View Post
Anyhow, it's a really nice looking boat she has, and red is a much better colour for a boat than (ahem) pink! I hope she keeps sailing Guppy and doesn't make a quick buck by selling it to a museum like a certain other teenage record holder did.... boats should not live in museums except perhaps for ones that are old and unseaworthy like dug up Viking longships et al.
Firstly congratulationa to Laura for completing her circumnavigation but I could not let the above very unfair comment go by without responding.

1. Jessica Watson did not make a "quick buck" by selling her boat. Are you aware that she turned down an offer of more than $1 million from an American buyer? Hardly the actions of someone trying to make a quick buck.
She sold her boat for $300,000 and the buyer was the Queensland and Australian Federal government. The boat is housed at the Queensland Maritime Museum. Its $300,000 price tag will only just cover Jessica's debts. Jess was in a lot of debt, having bought the boat herself.

2. Jessica's circumnavigation was non stop. She chose a route that is a traditionally recognised path and distance for ‘around the world sailors’. As this was a Southern Hemisphere voyage the significant landmarks were the southern tips of the American and African continents, as well as some of the most challenging oceans a sailor will ever face. She chose a route that is a traditionally recognised path and distance for ‘around the world sailors’.

3. Laura's voyage included several stops and island hopping where she was able to get refreshed and meet up with family & support crew and was nowhere near as gruelling both from a mental & physical aspect as a non stop circumnavigation including the Southern Ocean. She even flew home in the middle of the voyage to speak at a boat show and at other engagements.

4. The route followed by Laura cannot be compared to that followed by Jessica. Yeah, Laura may now be the youngest circumnavigator but the challenge was nowhere near as tough.

As you will note my very first comment was to congratulate Laura so I give credit where it is due but let's be fair here as we are not comparing apples with apples.
Ozbullwinkle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-01-2012, 16:43   #225
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: on board, Australia
Boat: 11meter Power catamaran
Posts: 3,648
Images: 3
Re: Laura Dekker's Circumnavigation

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan_78 View Post
Very nice indeed!

That's awesome that she went out there and did what she wanted to do even though so many were against her. I'm going back to searching for my first boat now.

Cheking the vessel she is on in this photo she should have no issue with future funding.
downunder is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
circumnavigation


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Laura Dekker En Route to the Caribbean TaoJones Cruising News & Events 17 05-01-2011 07:41
Laura Zekoll - Prayers and Support for her Rescue... High Heels Cruising News & Events 6 03-12-2010 20:33
Laura Dekker GordMay Cruising News & Events 168 30-08-2010 13:06
Laura (13) Ready for Solo 'Round the World sokkum Cruising News & Events 100 23-10-2009 02:35

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:31.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.