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Old 14-03-2011, 13:23   #16
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They are taking advantage of our special weekend rates, provided its returned with the tanks full.
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Re: India Captures 61 Somali Pirates

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Probably west of the Laccadives.... plus a few K's for the journalists 'Artistic Expression'....
they are targetting the SLOCs which pass through the Lacadives island. they are getting too ambitious if they are just 1000-1500km off Indian coast. they will be surely taught a lesson.
But Honestly, I like the russian approach towards the pirate - swim back to puntland boys!
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I seem to remember reading that the Indian Navy had a carrier in the works. Has it been launched as yet?
The Indian navy has at present one carrier in service: it is VIRAAT (ex British HERMES)
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Next year the massive rebuilt of VIKRAMADITYA (ex Russian Baku) will be finished and she will join VIRAAT in service.
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Entering the service by VIKRANT, first home built Indian carrier of 47.000 tons is scheduled for 2014 - VIRAAT will be put to reserve then.
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Last year second home built carrier (I don't know the name yet) was ordered. Indian navy want to have by 2018 - 2020 two proper carrier battle groups in service (VIKRANT + the newest one) and one in reserve (VIKRAMADITYA). VIRAAT will be probably retained in reserve until the newest carrier (of 65.000 tons least) will join the service.

In third decade of the century second 65.000 tons carrier will be probably built, VIKRANT shall become the reserve carrier and VIKRAMADITYA shall be put out of service (it is already not new ship).
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Re: India Captures 61 Somali Pirates

DoubleWhisky thats a great scoop. Good Job! lot of info.
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Bout time some more Nations step up to the plate.
You can say that again! This is very promising.

Another thought I haven't read about: How about ocean-going tugs with barges loading canal-bound cruisers on the barges and transporting them to the Med. Cruisers could stay aboard their vessels. The barges could be well-defended or escorted easier than boats on their own bottoms. I'd think this would be far cheaper than overland transportation, and much less hassle for cruisers all around. Ergo worth paying for.

All those ripoff transit bribes and fees could then be negotiated at a group rate. Surely there's a shipping magnate out there wiith the resources to put this together. Once the backlog is transported, this could be a scheduled service. Low-budget cruisers could just sail on around Africa as in days of olde.

Apologies if this idea has been proferred elsewhere and I missed it.
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Bout time some more Nations step up to the plate
Well isnt it time the US put some ships there, EU NAVFOR has 14 at present, other nations have over 20 ships between them, the US has 2 or 3 at present, I dont think it has actually stepped up to the plate at all.

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err, isnt that called "dockwise" and based on their current pricing it isnt cheap no not at all.


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err, isnt that called "dockwise" and based on their current pricing it isnt cheap no not at all. dave
Sorry Dave, had to Google that. I guess so. Maybe their sales team is asleep at the helm. Those ships do look high dollar. My plain old barge idea might be affordable.
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Re: India Captures 61 Somali Pirates

The solution is simple, clear the area, be prepared to sacrifice hostages lives , open fire , remove pirates, end of problem. its not for the want of naval assets, theres enough there to start a war. Its consideration for innocents and the RoE that prevent this mess from being cleared up ( understandably).

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These are some non lethal measures which can be implemented on board a merchant ship as an antiPIRACY measures. How do you use them for yachts?


1. LRAD. Sonic cannons can warn pirates from almost two miles

2. Dazzlers. SPA Defense sells a hand-held laser beam that can impair vision from more than half a mile

3. Citadel. Pirates have spent days searching for these hidden safe rooms

4. Propeller arresters. MMWC sells a system that drops more than 300 feet of buoyant rope to entangle skiff propellers

5. High-energy lasers. The Office of Naval Research used a laser to set fire to a small boat from more than a mile

6. Decoy watchmen. Dummies strapped to the rails can give the appearance of extra vigilance

7. Water hoses. Hot, high-pressure water can be aimed from hoses or poured in curtains from "spray rails"

8. Razor wire. High-tensile concertina wire, mounted in sections, is a minimum measure
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Re: India captures 61 Somali pirates

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One of those two statements may be correct.

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The article says that the incident took place "in Indian waters" and, later, that it took place "1100 kilometers off the west coast of India".

Just goes to show that journalists haven't a clue. 1100KM is over 700 miles and no country claims that far off their coast to be their own territorial waters.

Whever it took place, kudos to India. About time someone stepped up to the plate.

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In this incident at least 9 Mozambique sailors died. They were hijacked and forced to be crew in their own boat. Boat was sinked by Indian navy shots. Pirates scape in fast crafts and leave hijacked crew alone.There is no information flowing to avoid these stupid deaths?
Los piratas piden 14 millones por los gallegos del "Vega 5", según la prensa india - Faro de Vigo
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