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Old 29-10-2014, 10:44   #16
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Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Hope they didn't just dump it over board. Would definitely be some agitated neurotic fish swimming around with a nervous twitch
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A person who does not agree that drugs are not harmful and that drugs should be legalised.

I disagree with the argument "there so much cocaine out there we may as well legalise it"
Addictive drugs are extremely harmful (as are many of the 'designer' ones). That being said, Portugal decriminalized personal use possession amounts on everything, and rather than spending $$$ on policing illegal drugs, they are spending them on treating the addicts.

A good article in Der Spiegle (in English) on this.

'This Is Working': 'Drug Users Aren't Criminals, They're Sick' - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Perhaps the so called war on drugs would be better served on helping the addicted. Large scale smuggling obviously should still be targeted for interdiction.
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Was there someone doing a delivery in that area????


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Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Seems to becoming popular all this drug running in yachts.
Another one was intercepted a few weeks ago by the Irish Navy.

Pensioner skippered yacht seized by Irish Navy 'with 100m cocaine haul' | Daily Mail Online
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Seems to becoming popular all this drug running in yachts.
Another one was intercepted a few weeks ago by the Irish Navy.

Pensioner skippered yacht seized by Irish Navy 'with 100m cocaine haul' | Daily Mail Online
I like the math. This "1 tonne haul is worth 100,000,000" so the first boat must have had only 100 kg. I'm sorry my math was so far off in my other post.
But wait that would mean that a gram of blow is 80 Pounds so all the street dealers are losing big time by only charging 40.
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Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

So an anti-druggist" is:

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I'm glad to see that you have no problems with alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, etc.
Which drugs should be legalized seems to be an individual decision.
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Cocaine is one of the least harmful drugs to people and to societies but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

Drug busts high dollar estimates are like measuring forest fires in number of lost tooth pics.

I'm not advocating drug running as I believe it should ship on normal
Cargo ships like everything else. Regulated, taxed, etc.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...n-cocaine-haul

Being an anti druggist this stuff is great
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......but yes, it's good to see more of this s**t been intercepted
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Makes one wonder how they knew, I guess an informant.
International waters? Do they have authority if it was?
These days lots of criminals are finding themselves mysteriously caught.

Governments regularly share data collected from phone, cell, Internet, and other forms of communication. It's getting to be like Minority Report

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/1...ism-other-uses

Surprise! Controversial Patriot Act power now overwhelmingly used in drug investigations - The Washington Post

Governments of the world making sure that crime doesn't pay (unless it's government crime).

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Cocaine is one of the least harmful drugs to people and to societies but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
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How do you figure that?

I'm a doctor and part of my work is a practice is in inner city Baltimore. Lost count of how many strokes and heart attacks I've seen in relatively young people (and surprisingly old people as well) due to cocaine. And at minimum, when folks get addicted they tend to spend all their money and time on cocaine binges, and their overall health deteriorates as well.
Heroin may be the king of physiologic addiction, but the psychologic addiction of cocaine is unparelleled. Both have ruined lots of lives and health that I've seen. It's possible that the fact that they're illegal may deter some young people on the fence from trying, or it's possible it doesn't matter.



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A type 23 frigate has authority wherever it likes.

Nice looking sailboat. What a shame to see it used in such a way.
I'm in the market for a boat like that, wonder if I could pick it up for cheap?
Anyone ever purchase a gov. seized boat and how does one find a "listing"?
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I'm in the market for a boat like that, wonder if I could pick it up for cheap?
Anyone ever purchase a gov. seized boat and how does one find a "listing"?
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Cocaine is one of the least harmful drugs to people and to societies but don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
I'm trying to stay out of this drug discussion as I have unpopular beliefs myself, and it has little to do with cruising.
But there are some drugs that are worse than others, Cocaine is by no means a new drug and history shows that it, like Opium is one of the bad ones.
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Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

Shouldn't this be in the "make money while cruising" thread???
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Re: Huge Cocaine haul off sailing boat!

I think that what Mark j was saying in that he is a drug " resistor " rather than a drug "capacitor". Probably a good thing given his general location. Nothing "cruiser like" about criminal cartels.
I think history has shown that prohibition simply provides a profitable distortion in the market for any particular commodity that is prohibited. In the case of drugs, prohibition of a wide range of substances (harmful and non harmful) creates an enormous black market. Its a jobs program for criminals and cops alike. You want less of something? Legalize it and tax the crap out of it. Just sayin, "Prohibition" is a lousy method of social control that promotes crime and corruption.

Should folks be using drugs is a whole different subject. "Just say no!" Is the least problematic condition. Who needs drama?
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