Greta hitches a ride on La Vagabonde

[senormechanico]

Originally Posted by Exile

Partisan-driven, chronically disgruntled people love to stereotype, characterize & label. It's in the nature of humankind, unfortunately. Among other things, it's easier than going through the work of figuring out who people really are and what motivates their beliefs. But why insult the political orientation & hygiene habits of strangers on the internet by calling them "right-wing, ol' fart deniers" when you can just use slights based on purely immutable characteristics such as age, race & gender?

What? They forgot, "Christian heterosexual who still uses a CQR anchor".

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

What a fool. 47 dead in Ash Wednesday and around 3500 homes lost. Do some research instead of drinking the kool-aid.

The guys who do the real research (retired and current Fire Chiefs of most Aussie States) categorically disagree with you. I guess that doesn't make them right but somehow they seem more believable.

Fires in recent years are more extensive, occur more often, burn hotter and are more unpredictable than those of the past.

The main reasons why now there are less loss of life and assets are simple. We now have more resources - personnel, ground assets, air assets, better access, better training, better techniques and way way better communications to nothing of better understanding on how to defend ourselves. If you have ever been are the pointy end of fire fighting or have property threatened by large scale fires in the last decade, you would know this. If you haven't, then you have only read stuff and that stuff isn't always factual - rather it is often politically motivated and therefore suspect.

[NorthernMac]

Originally Posted by atoll

fun fact!

statistically ,ships life boats in the last 30 years have accidentally killed more people than they have actually saved

I think the level of death is quite a few decimal places of difference

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

[flyingfin]

Originally Posted by atoll

looks like they changed their minds and are heading for trinidad carnival instead of europe,i guess they decided they can't make it to lisbon/gib by the 2nd of dec heading south fast now..........

https://forecast.predictwind.com/tra...ingLaVagabonde

Actually, their track indicates they may just be trying to get far enough out into the Gulf Stream to avoid reverse flows and pick up NE flow....Based on these water temp readings.
https://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/global/monitor/

[Baba Buoy]

They need a baby sitter. Media storm ahead! Reef that main now.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Wotname

The guys who do the real research (retired and current Fire Chiefs of most Aussie States) categorically disagree with you. I guess that doesn't make them right but somehow they seem more believable.

Fires in recent years are more extensive, occur more often, burn hotter and are more unpredictable than those of the past.

The main reasons why now there are less loss of life and assets are simple. We now have more resources - personnel, ground assets, air assets, better access, better training, better techniques and way way better communications to nothing of better understanding on how to defend ourselves. If you have ever been are the pointy end of fire fighting or have property threatened by large scale fires in the last decade, you would know this. If you haven't, then you have only read stuff and that stuff isn't always factual - rather it is often politically motivated and therefore suspect.

I don't care who disagrees with me. I quote facts.


Some enlightening reading for you outside of news.abc.net.au


https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@...0Article151988

[daletournier]

I just read this ladies onboard
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Henderson

[atoll]

Originally Posted by flyingfin

Actually, their track indicates they may just be trying to get far enough out into the Gulf Stream to avoid reverse flows and pick up NE flow....Based on these water temp readings.
https://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/global/monitor/

should be on the other side of it already or pretty soon before the stronger winds arrive.
looks like winds could get quite strong over the next 48 hrs then backing to the north allowing them to head east again

[daletournier]

I'm assuming they have a professional weather router?

[atoll]

Originally Posted by NorthernMac

I think the level of death is quite a few decimal places of difference

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

another fun fact ,most of those contemporary genocides you quoted were committed by right wing nationalist govenments.....sound familiar

[atoll]

Originally Posted by daletournier

I'm assuming they have a professional weather router?

i would assume so or at least have access to good satelite linked software program onboard

[BBViper]

Originally Posted by senormechanico

What? They forgot, "Christian heterosexual who still uses a CQR anchor".

I've never denied my old farts. Proud of 'em.

[atoll]

Originally Posted by daletournier

I just read this ladies onboard
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Henderson

i hope she realises if you push the boat too hard they break,and they dont have that multi million pound back up team on shore if they lose the mast or an endless sail wardrobe for blown out sails.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

I don't care who disagrees with me. I quote facts.


Some enlightening reading for you outside of news.abc.net.au


https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@...0Article151988

A pertinent fact that deserves to be quoted:

"The 1895-1903 drought period was probably Australia's worst to date, in terms of both its severity and area - affecting practically the whole of Australia at various times but more persistently in parts of eastern and central Australia. Stock and crop losses were apparently the highest in Australian history."

According to the graph you posted a few pages back showing avg. global temps it was 1.0-1.2ºC cooler in the period of the 1895-1903 Australian drought. But then I doubt such facts will prevent some from automatically blaming the current drought & fires on MMGW/CC.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by atoll

i hope she realises if you push the boat too hard they break,and they dont have that multi million pound back up team on shore if they lose the mast or an endless sail wardrobe for blown out sails.

How realistic is their Dec. 2nd deadline for making Gibralter? By my count that's an 18-day crossing.

Edit: Just saw that you had already answered that one in the negative in the other thread. Yeah, 18 days seemed kinda unrealistic from what I've read, but maybe their Outremer can exceed expectations if/when the wind becomes more favorable.