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Old 18-08-2016, 19:25   #2806
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Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

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I'll ignore your small misstatement on quoted values. it's not as if you and are scientists.

So, you think a human-caused 40% increase in atmospheric CO2, in 160 or so years, isn't significant?

The rest of your 'cult' rant can safely be stuffed back up the orifice from which it originated.
You are the one telling us data doesn't matter...so until you can produce a Predictive and Testable model on which the worlds Scientists can scrutinize and test (you know....that thing called basic science) we have to keep the MMGW Theory where it belong right there next to the Margarine is better than butter and a Gluten Free Diet is good for your health.

It's up to the Cultists to show and prove that a 40% increase in CO2 is harmful....that's how science works.
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Old 18-08-2016, 19:30   #2807
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So, you think a human-caused 40% increase in atmospheric CO2, in 160 or so years, isn't significant?

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It isn't significant if the supposed effects have either not materialised or are insignificant in themselves.
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Old 18-08-2016, 19:41   #2808
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No my friend, that's bullshit, intended to deceive. The planet's life does not exist happily at every point between 0 and whatever, Kelvin PPM of CO2, for starters.
And the difference between the two statements is?
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And the difference between the two statements is?
I will answer that....

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When the HezboEnvironmentalists have come to this...they have Jumped the Shark.

Could Less Gassy Livestock Be a Cash Cow? - Bloomberg

[[If you are not familiar with the pop culture use of the phrase "jumped the Shark" a quick google search will take you back to Fonzi and Happy Days]]

Now folks....Methane BackPacks to capture Cow Farts to save Mother Gia? Yes...these Cultists are really that crazy. This is not from the Onion..this craziness has gone mainstream.





Under 3.5% of the total US CO2 and do you know the amount of US Tax dollars and grants studying this "problem". Folks...if this doesn't expose the MMGWC Scam to you...then lets strap a Fart collecting back pack on YOU...it's halarious. And see the Cultists have to defend this, have to say how important a point and study this is to be true to the Religion.

If CO2 was really a problem as the Cultists say, then don't you think they would attack the big sources and leave my steak alone?
30% from Electricity...now do you understand why they hate your Air Conditioning and want you to do without it? Your Air Conditioning is killing the Polar Bears!

The USA could cut CO2 emissions by 30% just by going to Nuke power...if it was really a crisis that is, rather than a Tax and Control Scam.

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Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Gee this is fun....so what if the USA was to totally BAN and END all Green House Gases tomorrow....what would happen?

Ah...lets see...NADA since we only account for 16% of the Global Total.
Folks are you starting to see the SCAM...the LIE....Trillions of Dollars for 16% that's if we ended it ALL, which is impossible. ha ha ha....it's halarious when you actually look at the data!


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This graphic from University of California, Irvine Ph.D. candidate Zack Labe is a visual measure of a stunning jump in Arctic temperatures for 2016. So much heat in the Arctic has profound implications, not just for the Arctic ice and environment, but for the rest of the world as well. In other words — warming that happens in the Arctic doesn’t stay in the Arctic.
https://robertscribbler.com/2016/08/...16-heat-spike/
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Space, Climate Change, and the Real Meaning of Theory | The New Yorker
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I used to be an astronaut, a spacewalker on the International Space Station. Naturally, most of my fifteen-year crew career was spent on the ground, working with engineers to get the Station built and fully crewed for scientific research, but the day-in, day-out flow of this ground work was punctuated by the occasional illuminating, even eye-shattering experience, when I was launched into orbit and saw Earth through my spacesuit visor.[...]

The facts of climate change are straightforward: there’s been a warming surge over the past hundred years, with a dramatic uptick in this new century. We are seeing the effects in the shrinking of the summer Arctic sea ice and the melting of the Greenland glaciers. That melt, in turn, has been partly responsible for the three-inch rise in sea levels since 1992. The Earth is warming, the ice is melting, and sea level is rising. These are observed facts.

Are we humans the cause of these changes? The answer is an emphatic yes. [...]
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Unusually warm weather is believed to be behind the release of the bacteria, which has resulted in the death of a boy and his grandmother.

Another 90 people have been hospitalised on suspicion of infection and more than 2,300 reindeer have perished.[...]
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Gee this is fun....so what if the USA was to totally BAN and END all Green House Gases tomorrow....what would happen?

Ah...lets see...NADA since we only account for 16% of the Global Total.
Folks are you starting to see the SCAM...the LIE....Trillions of Dollars for 16% that's if we ended it ALL, which is impossible. ha ha ha....it's halarious when you actually look at the data!


The 2011 green house gases by country, figures do not take into account the at least, 17% fraudulently understatement by China on just it's coal emissions.

Since China has been caught providing false figures and have admitted to same. What confidence can we have in any figures provided by them. An admitted fraudster and lier has lost all credibility. They are what is called in a courtroom. An unreliable and untrusted wittness.
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Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

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This graphic from University of California, Irvine Ph.D. candidate Zack Labe is a visual measure of a stunning jump in Arctic temperatures for 2016. So much heat in the Arctic has profound implications, not just for the Arctic ice and environment, but for the rest of the world as well. In other words — warming that happens in the Arctic doesn’t stay in the Arctic.
https://robertscribbler.com/2016/08/...16-heat-spike/
So what's happening in Antarctica?
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So what's happening in Antarctica?
Some of it is warming up very quickly..

Climate Change and the Antarctic - Antarctic and Southern Ocean Coalition

Plus a possible explanation for the the expanding sea ice..

Antarctic sea-ice expansion between 2000 and 2014 driven by tropical Pacific decadal climate variability : Nature Geoscience : Nature Research
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Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Ahhhh.... The good 'ole "There's more ice because it's warming argument". Right up there with the "More snow because it's warming" argument.

I propose a "There's less ice because it's colder" explanation for the Arctic, based entirely on this same logic.

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