Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 20-06-2016, 11:34   #1516
Registered User
 
salticrak's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: palmwoods qld australia
Boat: wharram tiki 26
Posts: 739
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

I wonder why Russia has just launched a new icebreaker?
__________________

__________________
salticrak is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 11:54   #1517
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Toronto
Boat: Sandpiper 565
Posts: 2,919
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exile View Post
Maybe you could segway yourself more productively by re-posting those numbers showing the costs vs. benefits of remedial actions as published by Paris and/or the IPCC.
Speaking of misrepresenting...

But here's some Segway.
__________________

__________________
Lake-Effect is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 12:45   #1518
Senior Cruiser
 
jackdale's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 5,023
Images: 1
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by salticrak View Post
I wonder why Russia has just launched a new icebreaker?
I wonder why you do not bother to find out for yourself.

US to Expand Icebreaker Fleet in Arctic in Attempt to Catch Up With Russia
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203,204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 13:26   #1519
Senior Cruiser
 
jackdale's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 5,023
Images: 1
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exile View Post
Wrong again. Technology is the answer, and will help us adapt to a future climate that's always changing.
That does not seem to be to the case in plant science.

Quote:
Crop yields will fall within the next decade due to climate change unless immediate action is taken to speed up the introduction of new and improved varieties, experts have warned.
The research, led by the University of Leeds and published today in the journal Nature Climate Change, focusses on maize in Africa but the underlying processes affect crops across the tropics.
Study lead author Professor Andy Challinor, from the Priestley International Centre for Climate at the University of Leeds, said: "In Africa, gradually rising temperatures and more droughts and heatwaves caused by climate change will have an impact on maize.
"We looked in particular at the effect of temperature on crop durations, which is the length of time between planting and harvesting. Higher temperatures mean shorter durations and hence less time to accumulate biomass and yield."
It takes anywhere between 10 and 30 years to breed a new crop variety and have it adopted by farmers. The rate at which temperatures are increasing across the tropics means that by the time the crop is in the field it is being grown in warmer temperatures that it was developed in.


Read more at: Crop breeding is not keeping pace with climate change
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203,204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 13:53   #1520
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Toronto
Boat: Sandpiper 565
Posts: 2,919
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
That does not seem to be to the case in plant science.

But, we don't have to worry! Exile sez we'll adapt!
__________________
Lake-Effect is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 14:30   #1521
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 570
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
That does not seem to be to the case in plant science.
jack, you seem to have a tendency - perhaps deliberate, perhaps not - to root around for the studies and reports that bolster your view of the world, while ignoring the myriad info sources that are contradictory...

A couple you may have missed...

New Plant Protein Discoveries Could Ease Global Food and Fuel Demands

Environmental Factor - June 2013: New plant research discoveries could benefit global agriculture
__________________
fryewe is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 14:44   #1522
Registered User
 
salticrak's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: palmwoods qld australia
Boat: wharram tiki 26
Posts: 739
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
I wonder why you do not bother to find out for yourself.

US to Expand Icebreaker Fleet in Arctic in Attempt to Catch Up With Russia
Oh, grow up for goodness sake.
__________________
salticrak is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 14:45   #1523
Registered User
 
Reefmagnet's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: puɐןsuǝǝnb 'ʎɐʞɔɐɯ
Boat: Nantucket Island 33
Posts: 2,730
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
That does not seem to be to the case in plant science.
More alarmist BS.

The scorecard, as a marathon maize project winds up after eight years - Press Release - IITA

Quote:
14 September 2015
The Drought Tolerant Maize for Africa (DTMA) Project has contributed to a stronger food system in 13 countries in sub-Saharan Africa, through more than 200 improved maize varieties to help farmers cope with climate change and low-fertility soils through collaboration.
__________________
Reefmagnet is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 14:58   #1524
Senior Cruiser
 
jackdale's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 5,023
Images: 1
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

What I get from your link:

Quote:
Dangerous Website Blocked

You attempted to access:
The scorecard, as a marathon maize project winds up after eight years - Press Release - IITA

This is a known dangerous website. It is recommended that you do NOT visit this site. The detailed report explains the security risks on this site.

For your protection, this website has been blocked. Visit Symantec to learn more about phishing and internet security.
Quote:
Norton Rating

Safeweb Share
Norton Safe Web has analyzed iita.org for safety and security problems. Below is a sample of the threats that were found.
Summary

Computer Threats: 33
Identity Threats: 0
Annoyance factors: 0
Total threats on this site: 33
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203,204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 15:08   #1525
Registered User
 
Reefmagnet's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: puɐןsuǝǝnb 'ʎɐʞɔɐɯ
Boat: Nantucket Island 33
Posts: 2,730
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
What I get from your link:
Norton thinks because the site is from Africa, it's "dangerous".

That's rascist.
__________________
Reefmagnet is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 15:13   #1526
Senior Cruiser
 
jackdale's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 5,023
Images: 1
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by fryewe View Post
jack, you seem to have a tendency - perhaps deliberate, perhaps not - to root around for the studies and reports that bolster your view of the world, while ignoring the myriad info sources that are contradictory...

A couple you may have missed...

New Plant Protein Discoveries Could Ease Global Food and Fuel Demands

Environmental Factor - June 2013: New plant research discoveries could benefit global agriculture
Two links to the same three year old article.
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203,204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 15:14   #1527
Registered User
 
Reefmagnet's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: puɐןsuǝǝnb 'ʎɐʞɔɐɯ
Boat: Nantucket Island 33
Posts: 2,730
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
What I get from your link:

WHOIS:

Domain Name: IITA.ORG
Domain ID: D1050524-LROR
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL: http://www.easyspace.com
Updated Date: 2015-08-12T13:57:51Z
Creation Date: 1997-01-23T05:00:00Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2023-01-24T05:00:00Z
Sponsoring Registrar: Easyspace Limited
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 79
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant ID: tuC15LtPFbSXgrRC
Registrant Name: InternationalInstituteof Tropical Agriculture
Registrant Organization: InternationalInstituteof Tropical Agriculture
Registrant Street: PMB 5320 Ibadan,
Registrant Street: NG,
Registrant City: No Valid City
Registrant State/Province: No Valid State
Registrant Postal Code: 99999
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +234.27517472
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: j.scott@cgiar.org
Admin ID: tu8W8Otd81z5xRWm
Admin Name: Hostmaster Hostmaster
Admin Organization: Titan Internet Ltd
Admin Street: Lister Pavilion, Kelvin Campus
Admin Street: West of Scotland Science Park
Admin City: Glasgow
Admin State/Province: Scotland
Admin Postal Code: G200SP
Admin Country: GB
Admin Phone: +44.8456251000
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +44.1419314785
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: hostmaster@titaninternet.co.uk
Tech ID: tu8W8Otd81z5xRWm
Tech Name: Hostmaster Hostmaster
Tech Organization: Titan Internet Ltd
Tech Street: Lister Pavilion, Kelvin Campus
Tech Street: West of Scotland Science Park
Tech City: Glasgow
Tech State/Province: Scotland
Tech Postal Code: G200SP
Tech Country: GB
Tech Phone: +44.8456251000
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +44.1419314785
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: hostmaster@titaninternet.co.uk
Name Server: NS2.NAMECITY.COM
Name Server: NS1.NAMECITY.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned


Quote:
The International Institute of Tropical Agriculture (IITA) is one of the world’s leading research partners in finding solutions for hunger, malnutrition, and poverty.
IITA is a non-profit international organization founded in 1967 and governed by a Board of Trustees
__________________
Reefmagnet is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 15:28   #1528
Senior Cruiser
 
jackdale's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 5,023
Images: 1
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Found some information. Thanks

BTW - of the Sahel is greening why do they need drought tolerant maize?
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
ASA 201, 203,204, 205, 206, 214
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
jackdale is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 15:33   #1529
Senior Cruiser
 
StuM's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Port Moresby,Papua New Guinea
Boat: FP Belize Maestro 43
Posts: 6,515
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
That does not seem to be to the case in plant science.
Please stop, you're cracking me up again

""We looked in particular at the effect of temperature on crop durations, which is the length of time between planting and harvesting. Higher temperatures mean shorter durations and hence less time to accumulate biomass and yield."
...

The researchers found that crop duration will become significantly shorter by as early as 2018"

I'm willing to bet that 2018 will be significantly colder than 2015 and 2016 and hence the crop duration by their reasoning will be longer.
__________________
StuM is offline   Reply
Old 20-06-2016, 15:45   #1530
Senior Cruiser
 
StuM's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Port Moresby,Papua New Guinea
Boat: FP Belize Maestro 43
Posts: 6,515
Re: Do we need to be preparing for Arctic cruising strategies because of Global Cooli

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
Found some information. Thanks

BTW - of the Sahel is greening why do they need drought tolerant maize?
Because when the cycle returns to a climate phase like the '60s and '70s cooling period, they will again see drought similar to that disastrous period.
And an even worse possibility: if conditions were to return to your beloved "pre-industrial climate", we need to look at the even worse, long duration droughts which the region experienced during the LIA.
__________________

__________________
StuM is offline   Reply
Closed Thread

Tags
arc, cooling, cruising

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I love cruising because it teaches humility zboss General Sailing Forum 38 17-09-2014 19:38
A Boat Is Better than a Wife, Because . . . BlueWaterSail Off Topic Forum 94 20-02-2011 19:10
Current Strategies in Solar Power ? Roy M Electrical: Batteries, Generators & Solar 47 18-07-2010 05:37
i'm Really a Tiller Guy, because i Like the Responsiveness of a Multihull... Pipeline Multihull Sailboats 2 08-01-2010 07:32
Men return to Mountains and to the Sea because.... JohnnyB Challenges 4 10-10-2008 08:48



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 18:25.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.