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Old 26-11-2011, 04:34   #406
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Re: Crew of SV 'Sanctuary' Abandon Ship

I'll get the pics and lat/Lon sent to me, left it on the boat. We circled if for near a half hour. At the time we were unaware of the rescue, so we were trying to figure what had happened.
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Not a mega surprise...
its often the case...
Boats just Love to make one look Stoopid....
Or maybe some boats just like to sail themselves and do whatever they can to get the humans off to do it. I know of several Nonsuch 30's that sailed on without crew ended up on shore where they were salvaged and are still sailing today.
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I'll get the pics and lat/Lon sent to me, left it on the boat. We circled if for near a half hour. At the time we were unaware of the rescue, so we were trying to figure what had happened.
Thanks Jimijams. I think a lot of us here would like to follow the journey of this or any other boat that ends up in a similar situation for as long as we can.
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Old 26-11-2011, 07:58   #409
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Re: Crew of SV 'Sanctuary' Abandon Ship

Two previous fixes were:

October 29 1200Z
35-57N 67-29W
(as per lenseman's post #104)
It seems this is where the rescue took place.

November 14 1100 (EST?)
36-40N 66-44W
(as per nv5l's post #381)
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Two previous fixes were:

October 29 1200Z
35-57N 67-29W
(as per lenseman's post #104)
It seems this is where the rescue took place.

November 14 1100 (EST?)
36-40N 66-44W
(as per nv5l's post #381)

Looks like it's currently riding the Gulf Stream and 2500 nm from France. A Beneateau just trying to get home. I'm hoping it does.
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Old 26-11-2011, 08:38   #411
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Two previous fixes were:

October 29 1200Z
35-57N 67-29W
(as per lenseman's post #104)
It seems this is where the rescue took place.

November 14 1100 (EST?)
36-40N 66-44W
(as per nv5l's post #381)
56nm (roughly .15kts) at 039 degrees. Right direction for the GS drift. A bit slower than I would have expected but there have been northerly and easterly winds.
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Old 26-11-2011, 09:00   #412
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Re: Crew of SV 'Sanctuary' Abandon Ship

I love an adventure and would love to salvage this boat, but I have never done something like this before, does any one know the pit falls of doing something like this? And does anyone out there also have my adventerous mind set that would like to buddy up on a project like this? I have huge concerns, like finding the boat, fixing it up enough to get it back safely, the weather, and lastly but not least, the legal issues that may come once salvaged. I am adventerous but not at the risk of life and limb.
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I love an adventure and would love to salvage this boat, but I have never done something like this before, does any one know the pit falls of doing something like this?
You need another boat to get there...
And does anyone out there also have my adventerous mind set that would like to buddy up on a project like this?
You got the boat to go in...? We split the salvage take 50/50...? count me in..
I have huge concerns, like finding the boat, fixing it up enough to get it back safely, the weather, and lastly but not least, the legal issues that may come once salvaged.
Finding it may be not so hard... put out a 'Notice' for boats to log/report sightings... start at the point of rescue and follow the dots... she's going nowhere fast... it will be a tad lumpy tho'....
Doubt it needs much fixing, just careful sailing... roll out the jib... swing S and head for the Islands... legal issues are simple.. boat is abandoned... insurers may or may not buy it back...
I am adventerous but not at the risk of life and limb.
I always had the opinion if its not dangerous... its not an adventure...
More a night at the Movies....
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Old 26-11-2011, 09:25   #414
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I love an adventure and would love to salvage this boat, but I have never done something like this before, does any one know the pit falls of doing something like this? And does anyone out there also have my adventerous mind set that would like to buddy up on a project like this? I have huge concerns, like finding the boat, fixing it up enough to get it back safely, the weather, and lastly but not least, the legal issues that may come once salvaged. I am adventerous but not at the risk of life and limb.
You also forgot all the other drooling adventurers who are making claims on the boat that show up when you do.
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Old 26-11-2011, 15:51   #415
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Rescue took place Oct. 29/11 - today is Nov. 26/11. Almost a month, it would seem to me.
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May want to contact the owner before you plan to salvage...if it's not "abandoned" in the eyes of a maritime court because the owner has the same idea of going after it...all you would/might get is a piece of it's worth.
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May want to contact the owner before you plan to salvage...if it's not "abandoned" in the eyes of a maritime court because the owner has the same idea of going after it...all you would/might get is a piece of it's worth.
I would have thought the Major Player would be the Insurers...
as the Claims gone in, technically its their boat...
If its still afloat its in their interests to see what might have been the damage and assess reasonable settlement...
if nothing was found really wrong then they can refuse to settle...
and as the Skipper has given evidence that the vessel was to unsafe to stay aboard he had no option but to abandon it... on the record..
I figure you'd get a very nice 'Finders Fee'...
%'s vary....
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I would have thought the Major Player would be the Insurers...
as the Claims gone in, technically its their boat...
If its still afloat its in their interests to see what might have been the damage and assess reasonable settlement...
if nothing was found really wrong then they can refuse to settle...
and as the Skipper has given evidence that the vessel was to unsafe to stay aboard he had no option but to abandon it... on the record..
I figure you'd get a very nice 'Finders Fee'...
%'s vary....
You may be right ...I forgot that someone posted that a claim was already paid...but even then...all I point out is salvage isn't as easy as some think...there really ARE rules!
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Isn't there something about being responsible for it once you tie on. When you get to port you have to store in a manner to prevent further damage until the claim is settled?
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Isn't there something about being responsible for it once you tie on. When you get to port you have to store in a manner to prevent further damage until the claim is settled?
yes...you get paid for preventing futher damage but within reason liable for further damage.
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