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Old 20-06-2013, 15:47   #16
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Re: Containership Breaks in Half - Update and Images

Is that MOL Comfort A or B that just pulled into harbor.
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Old 20-06-2013, 16:01   #17
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Cotemar - Can you tell me what brand anchor that is. I'm planning on buying a Manson Supreme, I hope that was a cheap knock off and not a Manson. Thanks.
That is from a bad batch of Chinese Rocna anchors that were made. Rocna anchors made today are all good
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I'm sorry, but thats meaningless. All ships are on a shedule.
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That is from a bad batch of Chinese Rocna anchors that were made. Rocna anchors made today are all good
But built with lesser quality steel than the original spec by ROCNA. Manson
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Slightly OT, but not completely.

I have read several references to floating containers being a hazard to a ocean going boat. Are there that many out there that they are a real concern? I know it only takes one to ruin your day, but is it really that big of a danger? Are they really out there in numbers to be concerned about?
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Slightly OT, but not completely.

I have read several references to floating containers being a hazard to a ocean going boat. Are there that many out there that they are a real concern? I know it only takes one to ruin your day, but is it really that big of a danger? Are they really out there in numbers to be concerned about?
10 000 annually is normally the figure bandied around, but this link http://www.worldshipping.org/industr...ard__Final.pdf claims that only about 350 are lost.

Regardless, it only takes one in the wrong spot to ruin your day.

On another note, I bet MOL are kicking themselves about now for not taking the extended warranty option
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I have heard that they have Magnessium corners that dissolve , then the thing sinks, any truth in that?
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Re: Containership Breaks in Half - Update and Images

I heard 10,000 lost per year from a guy who worked for a company that owned a number of container ships. Fortunately most sink though undamaged refrigerated containers could float for a very long time. Until the invention of radio buoys, much of our knowledge of ocean currents came from the contents of lost containers floating around the ocean.
A container of athletic shoes and one of rubber duckies, really, were the most notorious.

Funny, was just in Nagasaki and there were two MOL containerships anchored there. Both looked like they were either new or just out the yard from a refit, all shiny paint and clean bottoms.
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I have heard that they have Magnessium corners that dissolve , then the thing sinks, any truth in that?
Not true.

If you want to confirm this can look at the corner of any container sitting on a truck and see there is no magnesium. Magnesium oxide looks different than oxide from steel.
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That is just amazing, 1) it broke in half 2) halves are still floating.
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Goes to show what compartmentalization can do for remaining afloat and upright.
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I have read several references to floating containers being a hazard to a ocean going boat. Are there that many out there that they are a real concern? I know it only takes one to ruin your day, but is it really that big of a danger? Are they really out there in numbers to be concerned about?
Many years ago I was on a ferry carrying rail cars, shipping containers on lorries, and plus passengers in Newfoundland. They actually cut loose the rail cars to reduce weight and prevent swamping while in a nasty squall. I am guessing they sunk pretty quick in that weather, but would hate to run into one of those. First the worry of icebergs and then rail cars and containers too. Good thing the Titanic isn't around these days. Too much to keep watch out for!

I personally have only ever encountered one shipping container, but the number of telephone poles and logs encountered is much scarier. They lay lower, blend in and can hole you in a blink of an eye!
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Interesting that the two pieces are already 19 miles apart. Talk about drift!
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