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Old 29-08-2011, 11:38   #31
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Re: Coast Guard Helping Sailboat In Distress at Ocean View In Norfolk, VA

the lesson to be learned from all of this is

there, but for fortune, go you and i,
you and i.....

is sad--i hope they had insurance and i hope they can salvage something of their lives.
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Old 29-08-2011, 11:47   #32
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Maybe it's too shallow in that bay?

And he probably did not understand that the cyclonic wind would come around from the NE. He probably assumed that the wind would be S since the hurricane was coming from there.

Very sad.
Very sad if he didn't understand the winds around a cyclonic event...darn near criminaly stupid.....day sailor yes....boat of that capability with passengers on board....
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the lesson to be learned from all of this is

there, but for fortune, go you and i,
you and i.....

is sad--i hope they had insurance and i hope they can salvage something of their lives.
That is the sad part... From the story (at the bottom) Michael Calabrese (the owner) claims that "Insurers have told him that they will not pay to salvage the vessel because he sailed during a hurricane"

And he has to remove the boat from the beach, or else the government will do it for him... and bill him...

Tragedy...
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That is the sad part... From the story (at the bottom) Michael Calabrese (the owner) claims that "Insurers have told him that they will not pay to salvage the vessel because he sailed during a hurricane"

And he has to remove the boat from the beach, or else the government will do it for him... and bill him...

Tragedy...
trajic failure to understand not only the obvious...but common sense as well as your insurance policy....
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Very sad overall
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Darwin award candidate. Lucky to be alive. Did you see the pictures where the anchor chain sliced through the Hunter's fiberglass hull like a hot knife through butter?
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Sad for the owners. Good anchor
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Re: Coast Guard Helping Sailboat In Distress at Ocean View In Norfolk, VA

Sad story.

The boat did all one could reasonably ask of it.
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Stupid, bad decisions, or bad luck this sucks for the owners. Does anyone know what we can do to help them out?
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Not a lot....
A book on 'Storm Tactic's' for the future may be useful...
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My husband mentioned a hydraulic lift truck could take it right off the beach.
I hope they know that. Would be nice to get the word to them
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Re: Coast Guard Helping Sailboat In Distress at Ocean View In Norfolk, VA

Just looking at photo #6.........I see a line wrapped around the prop and running forward....can't tell if it might have been a genoa sheet. Also the prop is pretty fouled with barnacles. Either one of these could have been the source of the "engine failure" they reported.
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A book on 'Storm Tactic's' for the future may be useful...
Ouch....
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Just looking at photo #6.........I see a line wrapped around the prop and running forward.
Well spotted!!!!


Thats the biggie of the clues. I noticed when the first photo was published that the main wasn't bent to the boom and the clew was ripped out of the genoa. So a good assumption that it was the cause of the prop wrap.

Of course with no mainsail its almost impossible to get upwind off a lee shore under genoa alone.

Not 'almost impossible' I think it is absolutly impossible.
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My husband mentioned a hydraulic lift truck could take it right off the beach.
I hope they know that. Would be nice to get the word to them
don't worry the salvage company will know how to do it...
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