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Old 24-11-2009, 12:38   #16
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30 miles south of cape lookout is in the gulf stream and the wind was out of the NNE-NE Saturday night and blowing 25+. With the wind against the current like that the stream can get pretty rough. It could have busted something loose.
Actually it's more like 30+ miles ESE of Cape Lookout shoals, but who's counting
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Old 24-11-2009, 13:01   #17
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30 miles south of cape lookout puts one in the edge of the stream. The rutgers site looks like the stream has been in that far, but it's based on sea surface temps and there has been a lot of cloud cover lately. That puts a lot of holes in their satellite data. I usually run into the stream at about bouy 14 +- a couple of miles. When the wind is against the current the waves can get very short and steep. It's not the overall size of the waves but the short wavelength that beats you up. If I remember correctly they were calling for 9-13 feet in that area Saturday evening.
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Old 24-11-2009, 13:25   #18
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I think the key to the mystery might be:

".....boat had earlier been boarded off Mayport, Fla., by the Cutter Harriet Lane. Peacock said he had no details about the boarding but thought it was to provide assistance........"

Apparently they were dealing with an issue they thought was under control in Florida. It was a professional crew, and they thought they'd make it. I'd like to think they were battling the mystery issue heroically, for hours and hours until they lost all power.
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Old 24-11-2009, 17:24   #19
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30 miles south of cape lookout puts one in the edge of the stream. The rutgers site looks like the stream has been in that far, but it's based on sea surface temps and there has been a lot of cloud cover lately. That puts a lot of holes in their satellite data. I usually run into the stream at about bouy 14 +- a couple of miles.
I haven't been in that section, but in Florida, the GS (at least the strong current) stays in the deeper water, off the continental shelf. I'm sure there is some warm water spillover, have you check amount of current?
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we were out SAT and Sunday.. Weather was not that bad at all..

I had decided to reef the main saturday ( first time i have ever tried to reef) and tore the sail.. We sewed it sat. night.. We went Sunday and sailed about 10 miles offshore and back. Conditions were not bad at all.. Our boat is only 30', so i doubt that a boat of that size would have had weather issues


That is the 2nd cheoy lee that has had issues off our coast.
A "professional" crew das delivering a 52 foot CL from virginia to somewhere in the bahamas or the BVI's and the "captian" decided to just sail around that tropical storm... 2 were air lifted off, the boat lost its sails and rudder..... BAD DECISION
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Is Nov / Dec the time to do it or rather May / June ???

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Old 26-11-2009, 17:36   #22
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That is the 2nd cheoy lee that has had issues off our coast.
A "professional" crew das delivering a 52 foot CL from virginia to somewhere in the bahamas or the BVI's and the "captian" decided to just sail around that tropical storm... 2 were air lifted off, the boat lost its sails and rudder..... BAD DECISION
Damn must be a bad area for Choy Lee's one of my clients was dis-masted in a Choy lee 36 about 3 weeks ago. Bad chain plate badly corroded just below the deck.

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LOL...

guess if you own a choy lee, stay away from the coast of NC.....
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I haven't been in that section, but in Florida, the GS (at least the strong current) stays in the deeper water, off the continental shelf. I'm sure there is some warm water spillover, have you check amount of current?
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Actually up here the stream comes into some pretty shallow water. Bouy 14 that I referred to is in about 100 feet of water. I've experienced currents there of 1-1.5 knots generally moving SW-NE. As you noted in a earlier post 30 miles ESE of the shoals is the axis of the maximum current, but you get lesser amounts of current much closer in than that. Chart 11009 shows both the inner edge of the stream and the axis of maximum strength. The Axis of maximum strength is in deeper water past the drop off in about 300+ fathoms. The approximate inner edge basically goes right over bouy 14 which in my experience is pretty accurate +- a couple of miles depending on the day.
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The rough part is not necessarily the max current. It is the "north wall" or northern edge of the stream delimited by water temperature change. It really sucks in the winter.

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Just the plain detail in the listing of the boat speaks well of its maintenance...but that also makes me wonder what the heck it was doing on EBay in the first place.
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One doesn't normally sell boats on Ebay.

Bought without inspection? The delivery crew inspected?
5 in the crew is too many for a 'pro' crew. So the previous question about their qualifications is pertinant. A skipper with a panicking crew member or 2 could be a problem.

That a few waited for the boat to rescue them instead of jumping into the helicopter is interesting.
Veerrrrry interesting if there was onmly 1 foot of freeboard left.

Interesting story.
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Come on Sherlock...put your thinking cap on...
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PLEASE !!--just don't include the Bermuda Triangle theme

Have been sailing it for 55 yrs-- and the strangest action that I have encountered in a boat was a redhead I met during College weeks in the 60's
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