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Old 22-10-2010, 09:40   #1
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'World's most advanced' nuke sub runs aground - World news - Europe - msnbc.com

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Old 22-10-2010, 10:06   #2
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Hah, I bet they didn't have paper charts!!!
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This is the second UK nuclear sub to ground off the Isle of Skye, it cost about $5,000,000 for the new bottom job last time.
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Two British and French nuclear submarines, HMS Vanguard and Le Triomphant, collided in the middle of Atlantic in February 2009, leaving both vessels damaged but still seaworthy.


The subs are so stealthy that their crews did not realise they had hit each other until their governments got in touch over the incident.
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It was reported that one of the skippers plotted the course in magnetic instead of true,,

In Creating a Route on Charts, Do You Use True or Magnetic ?
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Old 22-10-2010, 12:09   #7
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Two British and French nuclear submarines, HMS Vanguard and Le Triomphant, collided in the middle of Atlantic in February 2009, leaving both vessels damaged but still seaworthy.


The subs are so stealthy that their crews did not realise they had hit each other until their governments got in touch over the incident.

More than a little hard to believe that two subs collide and the crews are unaware. I did a stretch on an American nuke attack boat and I don't believe it for a second.
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More than a little hard to believe that two subs collide and the crews are unaware. I did a stretch on an American nuke attack boat and I don't believe it for a second.
I think what was meant was the subs didn't know who (what?!) they had hit until each Govt / Navy compared notes.

Story I heard on the UK sub was that ran aground when someone shouted "Somali Pirates". and they all hid down below. Again.

Gawd knows where those Aircraft carriers will end up. The Kyhber pass? (well, it's enroute to India ).
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I heard they fitted a false deck & fittings on the sub, then "ran it aground" to ensure that Chinese and Russian reconnaissance satelites would have a chance to record the disinformation, constructing a false profile for the sub.
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Is it the case that this boat was not under the escort of a tug and a pilot? Subs are real pigs to maneuver in the close quarters the photos (and the incident) seem to indicate she was in. Doesn't take much set to the tide to make things go south on you. Wonder if she sucked much into her intakes.
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As an ex Fleet Air Arm type; I can tell you that you have to be a little odd just to get into that branch. Clearly, though, some watch officers career just came to an abrupt halt.

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Oh, I don't know. For just running aground? Maybe the Brits are pickier but much worse has happened in the world of submarines than this photo op. Depends on culpability, I'd think. Still, embarassing. Sub crews were not noted for their gentle and forgiving senses of humor as I recall.
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Oh, I don't know. For just running aground? Maybe the Brits are pickier but much worse has happened in the world of submarines than this photo op. Depends on culpability, I'd think. Still, embarassing. Sub crews were not noted for their gentle and forgiving senses of humor as I recall.
The last time this happened ( in near enough the same place ) the officers were reprimanded

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I was on a submarine; I saw one get grounded in the river on its way back to the dock. There's really not a lot of room in some of those locations and the rivers get magical new mud banks especially following big rains.

That captain (and the entire bridge crew) are done for.
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Dozens of submarines navigate that channel without running aground (I would think).
Therefore, anyone who runs a ship aground, had to be negligent, and must be punished for his/her negligence.

This is not civvy street, where "accidents" happen.

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