Baja Haha News From Latitude 38 Today, Oct 1. 2014

[zeehag]

Paperwork Review for Baja Ha-Ha

October 1, 2014 – Going to Mexico

While reminding everyone that the Baja Ha-Ha does not do TIPs or Nautical Visas for anyone, we'll try to review the process one more time to answer common questions. (The Dona Jenkins Maritime Document Service in San Diego, 619-223-2279, will do TIPs for $150.)

SUGGESTIONS FOR APPLYING FOR A TIP at www.banjercito.com.mx/registroVehiculos:

When the site asks for your 'Document' after asking for the 'Name of the Importer', they are asking for your passport number.

For 'Date of Entry', put 27-10-2014 if you're doing the Ha-Ha. For 'Valid Until', put 27-10-2024.

When they ask for 'Vehicle Identification Number', we put our boat's Federal Documentation number. The folks at Dona Jenkins say if your boat has both a Hull Identification Number (HIN) and document number, Mexico prefers that you use the HIN number. We don't think it will be the end of the world if you put your document number instead of your HIN, as we did, but you never know. When we get to the first Banjercito, we're going to look into it.

Under 'Make', you probably have to select 'Otros' or other, because your boat manufacturer probably won't be listed. Once you get to 'Classification', most of you will choose 'Sailboat, inboard diesel'.

When they ask for 'Recreational Vehicle' in Step 3, do NOT list your dinghy and outboard. If you do, they'll only be good in Mexico for 180 days. The 'dinghy' business, such as it is, isn't until Step 5. At that point they don't ask for your dinghy per se, they ask for your outboard's serial number.

With regard to the 'List of Accessories and Belongings', we know it's a confusing list. The one thing you don't want to do is say you have more stuff than you do. Because in the unlikely event you ever get inspected, and you don't have all that stuff, they will likely assume you sold it in Mexico, which is illegal. On the other hand, if you buy new stuff in Mexico, such as an outboard, what are you supposed to do, get a new TIP? Hopefully carrying a receipt would be enough.

'List of Accessories and Belongings', believe it or not, is where you list the serial number of your diesel(s) and the outboard for your dinghy. There is no place to list a dinghy, sailing dinghy, life raft, or any other such major items, but they want to know if you have a "hand dryer." We offered to help them create this form, but we were not taken up on it.

Do you have to get a TIP before sailing to Mexico? In the old days, you did not. After last year's fiasco, everyone we know highly recommends it. Some Ha-Ha entries have gone to Ensenada in advance and gotten their TIP. This seems like a lot of extra time and expense, but it gets the job done. You cannot get a TIP in Cabo. This has nothing to do with hurricane damage, but rather the fact that Cabo never had a Banjercito, the military bank where you get a TIP. There are Banjercitos at Ensenada, La Paz, Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta.

If you want to get a TIP via Dona Jenkins, you have to get them your information two weeks in advance.

If you do the application online, you'll get it back via DHL in seven business days. Consider this: Mexico apparently picks up the tab for the DHL shipping, which means they probably only take in about $15 for each online application. Crazy.

John Pernitzke of Nova reports he was unable to get past the first page of the TIP application despite filling in all the boxes. We suggest he read what we've written above and try it again. We suspect that he's been doing something wrong, such as the wrong number of digits in a box. We've had no trouble.

Rob Orr of Fast Reorrg reports that when he applied for a new TIP to add new gear, the site said he already had one (which he did from April of this year), and that he couldn't get a new one without canceling the old one in person. Our advice is to not sweat it. You've got a current TIP, and our understanding is the Mexican government is giving everyone until the start of the year to update their TIPs. Indeed, if there is anything radically wrong with your TIP, as long as you have one, you should have to the beginning of next year to get it right.

NAUTICAL VISAS:

We haven't heard of people having many problems getting nautical visas online. Once again, apply for them individually at https://www.banjercito.com.mx/registroEmbarques, keep the receipt form that you print out after completing the online signup, and get a receipt or statement from your credit card company also. Keep these until you leave Mexico. Unlike TIPs, you get a nautical tourism visa when you apply. When you get to your port of entry, you trade it, at no additional cost, for a 180-day tourist visa. Good luck!

In other Ha-Ha news, we've broken down the 170-boat fleet into 14 divisions. In the past, we usually grouped boats by three criteria: 1) length, 2) whether a boat had a full keel and otherwise seemed like a cruising boat as opposed to a racer/cruiser or racer, and 3) whether it would be sailed with 'white sails only'.

We've changed things this year for two reasons: 1) the unusually small number of classic cruising boats entered, and 2) the huge increase in the number of 'white sails only' boats.

As such, we've grouped boats primarily by two criteria: 1) whether they are 'white sails only' or spinnaker/gennaker boats, and 2) their length. The results aren't perfect, but with such a large fleet, they are the best the Ha-Ha computer could do.

It's just 26 days until the start of Baja Ha-Ha 21. Here's the complete fleet list:

Boat Name / Boat Make/Model / Name / Boat’s Homeport

AGAVE DIVISION — white sails only

Solimar / Bristol Channel Cutter 28 / Kendal Banks / Santa Barbara
Scout / Rawson 30 / Garrett & Ruth Jolly / Morro Bay
Petrel / Rhodes Annapolis 30 / Dane Faber / Sausalito
Blue Mist / Pearson Vanguard 32 / David Nichols & Joan Fish / Alameda
Serenity / Ranger 33 / Al Mason / San Diego
Victoria / Pacific Seacraft 34 / John Enders / Anacortes, WA
Spirit of Adventure / Islander 34 / Don Stoutenger / Long Beach
Night Wind / Cal 35 / John DeWorken & Lori Wade / Santa Cruz
Invictus / Chris Craft 34 / Glen Miller / San Diego
Intuition / Tartan 3500 / Donald & Laura McLennan / Long Beach
Carola / Young Sun 35 / Cliff Smith & Mary Ann Paulazzo / Point San Pablo
Spirit Of Constellation / Catalina 36 / Tom Hammons / San Diego
Rhumba / Catalina 36 / Thomas DeMott / Vallejo
Velvet Sky / Island Packet 38 / Scott & Cindy Smith / Boise, ID
Ellare / Ted Brewer 38 / James MacDonald / Vancouver, BC

BURRITO DIVISION — white sails only

Insouciance / Corbin 39 / Vincent Chang / Half Moon Bay.
Itasca / Valiant 39 / John & Becki Quinn / Anacortes, WA
Rapture / Beneteau Oceanis 40 / Michael Powers / Anacortes, WA
Arctic Tern / Nordic 40 / Graham Wilson / Whitehorse, YT
Stochastic / Panda 40 / Tom & Kelly Miller / Orlando, FL
Poetry / Blue Jacket 40 / Bobby Pryor / San Diego
Touchstone / Valiant 40 / Gordon Wedman / Vancouver, BC
Gypsy Wind / Hunter 40.5 / Jim & Liz Lee / Marina del Rey
Flying Squirrel / Dehler 41DS / David Johnson & Amy Cooprider / San Francisco
Mia Zoi / Beneteau Oceanis 411 / George & Christy Papadakis / Seattle
Norske Dame / Formosa 41 / Richard Simpson / Long Beach
VikingMor2 / Morgan Out Island 41 / Kenneth & Lori Lillo / San Diego

CEVICHE DIVISION — white sails only

Sierra / Beneteau 423 / Hal & Laurie Lynam / Alameda
Kitehawk / Eggert 42 / Dirk Sherbina / Sacramento
Blessed Life / Catalina 42 Mk II / Bob Bahlman & Margie Hewes / Incline Village, NV.
Pantera / Catalina 42 Mk II / Barney & Paula McCloskey / Alameda
Serenity / Hunter Passage 42 / Greg & Carma Foulger / Los Angeles
Long Windid / Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 42 / Daniel & Marla Slattery / Chula Vista
Sail La Vie / Spindrift 43 / William & Barbara Giltner / Newport Beach
Amante / Irwin 43 Mk III / Jeff Jacobs / Sausalito
Three In One / Cheoy Lee 43 / Robert Taylor / Ventura.
Triton / Hylas 44 / Steven Counard & Kathryn Owen / Eugene, OR
Whimsea / Hunter 44 / Jerome Morgan / Richmond
Opportunity / Catalina Morgan 440 / Miguel & Barbara Ramirez-Williams / San
Diego

DESPERADO DIVISION — white sails only

Gold Dust / Islander 44 / James Clark / San Diego
Dreamtime / Island Packet 45 / Philip McManus / Chicago, IL
Carolee / Columbia 45 / Dave Hornbaker / Ventura
Champagne / Hunter 456 / Thomas & Kimberly Junod / Newport Beach
Imagine / Beneteau 46 / Terry Moore / San Diego
Stella Maris / Dufour Prestige 48 / Gabe & Diana Reed / Marina Del Rey
Footloose / C&C Landfall 48 / Raymond Macary & Lydia Leyba / Oakland
A Good Day / Island Packet 485 / Charlie McCullough / San Francisco
Optimus Prime / Beneteau 49 / Keith & Dana Jensen / Cameron Park
Endeavour / Tatoosh 51 / John Stephens & Tara Travers / Redwood City
Go For Broke / Custom Steel 63 / Stephen Arnold / Port San Luis
Disperser / Fibersteel Valeo 65 / Michael Wolf / Coos Bay, OR
Patricia Belle / Custom Wood Schooner 66 / Patrick & Jeann Hughes / Mazatlan, MEX WHOOOT!!!!
Dirigo II / Alden Schooner 72 / Arthur Lohrey / Friday Harbor, WA

ENCHILADA DIVISION

Sea Otter / Freedom 30 / Klaus Kutz & Jennifer Rader / Alameda
Friday / Hunter 31 / Jared Owen / Seattle, WA
Cool Change / Pacific Seacraft 31 / Rick & Cindy Patrinellis / Sausalito
Wandering Star / Sea Mist 32 / Tim Jacobson / Boise, ID
Starfire / Islander 32 / Jeff Delaney & Dawn Brooksgeaux, girl!!! / Channel Islands
Entrophy II / Ranger 33 / Richard Crumley / Bodega Bay
Impulse / Hunter 33 / Chris & Doug Rockne / Portland, OR
Korbut Rose / Hans Christian 33 / Bruce Brown & Sandy Zeng / Portland, OR
Valhalla / Ericson 34 / John Berg / San Francisco
Rejoice / Catalina 34 / Gabriel Rodriguez / Santa Barbara
Aussie Rules / Catalina 34 / Dave & Rose Hayes / Gabriola Island, BC
Fainche / Catalina 34 / Robert Frost / Alameda
Osprey / Pacific Seacraft 34 / Jim Doty / Bellingham, WA
Indigo / Pacific Seacraft 34 / Brian & Marya Lipiec / Camp Pendleton
Moana Makani / Baba 35 / Calvin & Lori Hastings / San Diego
Comet / Morgan 36 / Don Currie / Marina del Rey

FRIJOLE DIVISION

Lily Rowan / Ericson 35 II / Jim Parker / Berkeley
Joyride / J/109 (35) / James & Jennifer Vickers / San Francisco
Mariah / Seawind 35 / Guillermo Stein & Fernando Gutierrez / Puerto Vallarta, MEX
RoseBud / Cal 36 / Greg Rodgers / San Pedro
Intrepid / Islander 36 / Timothy Brill / San Francisco
Unwinder / Catalina 36 / Bob & Sandi Watson / San Diego
Brown Sugar / Lancer 36 / Don & Crystal Quinly / Stockton
Miss Lorelei / Beneteau Oceanis 361 / Michael Niggli / San DIego
Mana / Cape George 36 / David & Holli Swanson / Ventura
Arluk III / Cabot 36 / Wayne Peters / Vancouver, BC
Dragon’s Toy / Island Packet 37 / Tom Kohrs & Cary Purvis / Freeport
Spring Fever / Morgan 382 / Sherri Wilkinson & Don Scott / Tiburon

GUACAMOLE DIVISION

Myzella / Beneteau Oceanis 37 / Glenn Smith / San Diego
Sparx / O’Day 37 / Bob & Greta Huntsman / Long Beach
Double Docs / Pacific Seacraft 37 / Thomas & Lucie Merkle-Balgooyen / San Francisco
Papillon II / Pacific Seacraft 37 / David Boyer / Vancouver, BC
Seadra / DownEast 38 / Ed Choromanski & Val Russell / Vancouver, BC
Lorien / Panda 38 / Edward Starinchak / Bellingham, WA
Silver Sea / Catalina 38 / John & Ofelia Alvarado Gingold / San Diego
My Bonnie Karen / DownEast 38 / Chris Jernigan / Oceanside
Destiny / Island Packet 38 / Roberto Anima / Redwood City
Penelope / Hans Christian 38 / Karl & Susan Gierga / Scappoose, OR
Spinnaker / Corbin 39 CC / John Gleadle & Jennifer Gleadle / Vancouver, BC
Que Sera / Horizon 39 / Heidy Gross & Sean Hall / Marina del Rey

HUEVOS RANCHEROS DIVISION

Blue Peter / Tosca 39 / Jim & Leigh Terbush / Marina del Rey
Vixen / Ericson 39 / Dan Dennis & Judy Burch / Redondo Beach.
Desire / Cavalier 39 / Tom & Britta Hamilton / San Pedro
Deborah Rae / Pacific Seacraft 40 / Richard Johnson / San Pedro
Patina / Sparkman & Stephens 40 / Dell de Fabry / Dana Point
Felicita / J/120 (40) / Perry Peters / Marina del Rey
Ranidan / Hallberg-Rassy 40 / James & Linda Noval / Portland, OR
Paladino / Mao Ta Navigatorm 41 / Harland Harris / Napa
Astraea / Hallberg-Rassy 41 / Lee & Shelli Scifers / Olympia, WA
Sereno II / Hunter 41 / Gary & Cindy Cairns / San Diego
Saturna Spirit / Beneteau 411 / Katherine Blades / Vancouver, BC
Abby Normal / Island Packet 41 / Brad & Gay Gibson / Seattle, WA
Mabrouka / CT-41 / Roy Neyman / Seattle, WA!! CT41!!

IGUANA DIVISION

WindRover / Whitby 42 / David Dowling / Lake Oswego, OR
Sea Escape / Catalina 42 Mk II / Kelvin Phillips & Anthony Adams / Berkeley
Flibbertigibbet / Catalina 42 Mk II / Jim & Betty Adams / Stockton
Serenity / Catalina 42 Mk II / David Albert / Oceanside
Seaduction / Catalina 42 Mk II / Dan Lawler / San Diego
Wayward Wind / Catalina 42 / Bill & Kathi Gaffaney / Long Beach
Nova / Catalina 42 / Michael Pernitzke & Ina Tabak / Alameda
Northern Lights / J/42 / Roderic & Mary Deyo / Seattle, WA
Pelagic / Hallberg Rassy 42 / Michael & Amy Bradford / Portland, OR
Kandu / Tayana V42CC / Eric & Leslie Rigney / Ventura, CA
Quest / Golden Wave 42 / Michael Thirkill & Cybele Abbett / Brookings, OR
Dulcinea / Hinckley 42 / Scott & Kathleen Clapp / San Francisco
Seahorse V / Wauquiez 42 / Steve Thornton / Sidney, BC
Haul Pass ll / Hunter Passage 420 / Michael Mann / Sun Valley, NV

JALAPENO DIVISION

Apropos / Hans Christian 43 / James Shutt & Karen Wong / Seattle, WA
Lea Scotia / Taswell 43 / Bucky Jordan / Seattle, WA
Between da Sheets / Beneteau 42s7 / Rick & Sharon Seeber / Seattle, WA
Thistle / Alden 44 / Malcolm & Laura Fortune / Inverness
St. Claire / Brewer 44 / Kevin Abbink & Daniel Maynard / Cabrillo
Velella / Hylas 44 / Doug & Josette Schmer / Stateline, NV
Tranquilo / Catalina C445 / Lloyd & Colleen Clauss / Ensenada
Penn Station / Hylas 44 / Steve Felton / Tacoma, WA
Impulsive / Outbound 44 / Morris & Debra Adams / Seattle, WA
Cockpit / Beneteau Oceanis 440 / Renald Bouchard / Vancouver, BC
Starshine / Outbound 44 / Patrick & Melodie Williams / San Francisco
Third Wish / Norseman 447 / Jeff Goldfarb & Carolyn Lambert / Long Beach
Cavale / Cheoy Lee 44 / Michael & Mary Tutty / Seattle, WA

KILO DIVISION

Plan Sea / Island Packet 45 / Richard & Jenny Freeman / San Diego
Misjudged II / Hunter 460 / Patrick Magers / Newport Beach
Freya / Cal 2-46 / Steven Straitiff / San Diego
Wind Dancer / Hunter 466 / Phil Helman & Desley Oliphant / Pleasanton
Iolani / Hughes 48 / Barry & Sylvia Stompe / Sausalito
Kailani / Island Packet 485 / Rusty Frantz / Annapolis, MD
Scout / Jeanneau SO 52.2 / Greg Himes / Whitefish, MT
Wave Dancer / Transpac 49 MkII / Vladimir Madorsky & Galina Palace / San Diego
Grinn / Hunter 49 / Brad & Aline Mcdougall / Edmonton, AB
No Ties / Jeanneau 49 DS / Cary & Robin Spencer / Marina del Rey
Bon Voyage / Hunter 49 / Craig & Carol Fecker / San Diego
Dream Catcher / Roberts V495 / Norm & Wili Facey / Vancouver, BC

LANGOSTINO DIVISION

Belle / Beneteau 50 / Jack & Sylvia McDermott / San Francisco
Scarlet Fever / Jeanneau 50 / Paul Hofer / Wilmington, DE
Talion / Gulfstar 50 / Patsy Verhoeven / La Paz, MEX
Aesclepius / Bruce Roberts 50 / Donna & Cliff Carter / Edmonton, AB
Fast Reorrg / Hunter HC 50 / Ron Orr / Marina del Rey
Northern Winds / Beneteau/50 / Carmine Petriccione & Gail Scarlett / Coronado
Distant Drum / Idylle 51 / Harry Hazzard / San Diego
Scoots / Able Apogee 50 / Eric & Vandy Shrader / San Francisco
Moonshadow / Deerfoot 2-62 / John & Deb Rogers / San Diego

MUCHOS TACOS — (MULTIHULLS)

Reprieve / Horstman Tri Star 38 / Nathan & Cindy Walter / Channel Islands
Pied-a-Mer III / Seawind 38 / Eric & Pamela Sellix / Clatskanie, OR
Beach Access / Lagoon 380 / Glenn Twitchell & Debbie Jahn / Newport Beach
Motu / Cross 40 / Adrian Morgan / St. Thomas, USVI
FastAlley / Laurent William tri 41 / Julia Brown / Wilmington
Speakeasy / Manta 42 / Mark & Deanna Roozendaal / Victoria, BC
Triton / Robertson & Caine 45 cat / Robert Kane & AnnMarie Powers / Emeryville
Family Circus / Lagoon 470 / Chris & Heather Tzortzis / San Francisco
Sea Level / Schionning 1480 / James Milski / Lake City, CO

NO COMPRENDE DIVISION — (POWERBOATS)

Sea-Esta / Acapulco Trawler 40 / Robert & Sally Reynolds / Ventura
Sisu III / Kadey Krogen Trawler 48 / Ron & Janet Inberg / Seattle, WA
Jobsite II / Ocean Alexander 49 / Jack & Patti Balch / Mexico
Destiny / DeFever 49 Euro / Kyle & Christine Hunter / Newport Beach
Andante / Transworld Fantail 50 / Kevin Rhone / Seattle, WA
Choisi / Kadey Krogen Trawler 55 / Sara & Peter Gebhard / Newport, RI
New School / Chris Craft Constellation 61 / Brian Biggott / Los Angeles
- latitude / richard

WHAT RICHARD FAILED TO MENTION DESPITE KNOWING ABOUT IT!!!::::
this is news since last haha, also.
richard has mentioned it already in other editions of latitude 38. oops.

one MUST fill out another tip for one's speeding boat dinghy. any sportboat, which happens to include your avon, achilles, caribbe, and what have you, and planing engine, btw, MUST have a t i p for them as well as a t i p for mother ship. that is why the dinghy is not mentioned any longer on the t i p form. is in need of another form, one for it's self. oops.

this is as much for your protection as for mexican bureaucratic paperworks. remember there are dinghy thefts and bandidos everywhere, and this official listing of your possessions is important for your own porotection and potential return of property. .

[solarbri]

Originally Posted by zeehag

WHAT RICHARD FAILED TO MENTION DESPITE KNOWING ABOUT IT!!!::::

this is news since last haha, also.

richard has mentioned it already in other editions of latitude 38. oops.



one MUST fill out another tip for one's speeding boat dinghy. any sportboat, which happens to include your avon, achilles, caribbe, and what have you, and planing engine, btw, MUST have a t i p for them as well as a t i p for mother ship. that is why the dinghy is not mentioned any longer on the t i p form. is in need of another form, one for it's self. oops.



this is as much for your protection as for mexican bureaucratic paperworks. remember there are dinghy thefts and bandidos everywhere, and this official listing of your possessions is important for your own porotection and potential return of property. .

Is this true for a 14' inflatable sailing dinghy? No motor.


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[SV THIRD DAY]

Originally Posted by solarbri

Is this true for a 14' inflatable sailing dinghy? No motor.

Absolutely....sailing dinghy's need a TIP also.

[solarbri]

For reals? $150ish worth of TIP?
On a different note...
If one is to be trailering a boat into Mexico this year, is it better (easier) to get the necessary TIP's before hand, online? Or does that just confuse everything, and I should just get my TIP's in Nogales???


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[SV THIRD DAY]

Originally Posted by solarbri

For reals? $150ish worth of TIP?
On a different note...
If one is to be trailering a boat into Mexico this year, is it better (easier) to get the necessary TIP's before hand, online? Or does that just confuse everything, and I should just get my TIP's in Nogales???

Not sure where the $150 came from because a TIP is $50US.
Trailer boat, Sailing Dinghy, row boat, floating lawn chair...they all need a TIP and while technically you can get it after you get to Mexico...why would you want to wait and risk a problem? I'd do it online and be clean. They are good for 10yrs, so $50 for 10yrs...try those reasonable fees in California...ha ha ah

[zeehag]

third day-- the 150 is dona jenkins' price for doing the work for ye. i prefer to do it meself in mexico. is not hard, and is 50 usd per each . with dona jenkins doing it, the price would be 300 usd for 2 boats, which would be only 100 usd total in banjercito, anywhere in mexico

brian, get it in nogo.

you need one for each sport boat and one for the mother ship.
sport boat was defined as sailing or motorized.
jet ski is also a sport boat.
rowing is still not a sport thank gods.....

[delmarrey]

Originally Posted by zeehag

you need one for each sport boat and one for the mother ship.
sport boat was defined as sailing or motorized.
jet ski is also a sport boat.
rowing is still not a sport thank gods.....

So can I assume an inflatable kayak is a row boat, not needing a TIP?

[zeehag]

Originally Posted by delmarrey

So can I assume an inflatable kayak is a row boat, not needing a TIP?

as do i presume same. yes. no engine, no sails and not a jetski.. i think we safe for now.... until they start being stolen in huge numbers.....

[solarbri]

Well, I was mostly asking the question about getting my TIP's online compared to getting them at the border. I imagine I'd save time by doing it online, at home, but I was curious, if having my boat enter the country by land via a trailer made any difference, and would it be obvious when I filled out the forms?
In 2011, I sailed my boat down from Cali. I used an agent in La Paz to get my TIP. A few months later, I tried driving the trailer down through the border, and as it turns out, if you want to import a trailerable boat, you HAVE to bring them together. So, I forked out over $400 usd just to be able to drive my trailer to San Carlos. Then having left the trailer for over the six months it was allowed to stay, I forfeited the $400.
Not only that, but last year I sailed EVERYWHERE in Mexico without ever checking in. I was afraid of the TIP fiasco that was going on. My boat didn't have an H.I.N., but hanks to modern plaque engravers, it has an H.I.N. now. My TIP said I had A.C. and inboard engines...I don't. I was sailing on eggshells all last winter...
I just wanna make sure I cross all my t's and dot all my i's so I can rest easy when I'm actually down there trying to rest easy.
If I can avoid an excessively long stop at the border (it's always a bit long) by getting my TIP's online beforehand...that'd be great!



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[zeehag]

brian..if you can get tip online, more the better. it took me exactly one hour in person at banjercito in mazatlan when i got mine, but that was a few years ago, 2011. back then it was 65 u s dollars.
i have yet to check into anywhere except by radio after i left zihuatenejo--is a radio thing now-- some folks still go to port captain office, but about half of us dont. they know who is where. in barra lagoon, port capt runs around occasionally in his sport boat panga and checks everyone out.
yeah the tagging of boats also got me a lil nervous...they didnt come to barra, i noticed. just keep papers handy and current, and should be ok....
love how your cat 2 fold looks with shark teeth and flames...awesome!!!! hope to see you again this winter!!

[CGirvan]

Just a little confused, you mention that a rowing dinghy doesn't need a seperate TIP and a sport dinghy with planing motor does. What about a dinghy with a small 2hp outboard, definitely not sporty nor planing.

[SV THIRD DAY]

Originally Posted by CGirvan

Just a little confused, you mention that a rowing dinghy doesn't need a seperate TIP and a sport dinghy with planing motor does. What about a dinghy with a small 2hp outboard, definitely not sporty nor planing.

Has motor....needs TIP.
It's $50 for 10yrs....so my recommendation is why take the chance or fret over it? Don't leave it up to a Local Inspector to agree with this or that interpretation of the rules when you don't speak Spanish for heavens sake. Just get a TIP for all your Dinghys and relax and enjoy Mexico.