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Old 09-06-2011, 08:44   #1
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Arrested: Group from 'Protection Vessels International'

Protection Vessels International is a group meanto to be operating in the Gulf of Aden to protect vessels from Piracy.

The vessel was arrested by eritreans and all have been in the lockup since December.


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A West Australian skipper, still denied consular access after spending six months locked up in an east African jail, is now being accused of espionage and terrorism alongside three British colleagues.

Adrian Troy, who has duel Australian-British citizenship, has been detained in Massawa, Eritrea, since December, shortly after he had started work with British security company Protection Vessels International (PVI) to protect ships from piracy in the Horn of Africa.
Aussie in Eritrean jail accused of spying
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:54   #2
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Re: Arrested: group from "Protection Vessels International"

Duh! Let's take our private ship full of armament into a foreign port for FUEL?

They are so dumb, they deserved to be arrested. BUT that doesn't give any country the right to hold foreign nationals without consular access.
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:08   #3
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Re: Arrested: group from "Protection Vessels International"

I guess it all in your point of view.
White pirates (I presume) being arrested by a black nation?
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Old 09-06-2011, 10:21   #4
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Re: Arrested: group from "Protection Vessels International"

I think it's part of a larger UK / Eritrean dispute. Possibly also linked onto something we did in 1842 (or thereabouts).

But whatever, they broke "the law", can't have it all ways. Maybe should have stuck to Somali waters...........
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Re: Arrested: group from "Protection Vessels International"

Dockwise is threatening to change the registration of their boats from the Netherlands because of security issues. Apparently the Netherlands doesn't allow ships in their registry to arm themselves against piracy. Dockwise is asking the Netherlands to change their policy so they can hire security people for passages in the piracy area. The Dockwise ships move relatively slowly and have low points of access for a pirate so would be prime targets. With the increase in Piracy, strangely enough, Dockwise in getting a lot interest to ferry boats through the area. Without taking security precautions they are concerned that they would be easy meat for the pirates.

One of the anti-pirate measures is for the ships to sail at maximum speed. That enables them to outrun many pirate vessels and also makes it very hard to board. With the extremely high sides of most ships, boarding them isn't all that easy in perfect conditions.
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Re: Arrested: group from "Protection Vessels International"

Check out Eritrea in the CIA Factbook
https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/er.html

and I'd be surprised to find out that ANY nation has recognized an Eritrean state, much less appointed consuls or embassies there. From what the CIA has to say, it sounds like Eritrea isn't quite established yet, and putting into port in conflict lands while carrying weapons is generally, well, not a great idea.

Anyone know if the Ozzies even HAVE any formal relations there??
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Old 09-06-2011, 12:53   #7
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Re: Arrested: group from "Protection Vessels International"

Lots of countrys have diplomatic relations with Eritrea. There is a Eritrean embassy in DC and Melbourne.
http://embassy.goabroad.com/embassies-of/eritrea
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Re: Arrested: group from "Protection Vessels International"

"gaurds" get arrested but pirates get let go if caught! This seems to be a problem to me!
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Re: Arrested: group from "Protection Vessels International"

The Eritreans aren't known for their tolerance to foreigners, including foreign yachts, yet they moan about their economy sinking into the abyss....

Vessels have the right to be armed in accordance with the laws of their home port, though not every country recognizes this. However, if you are in the business of protecting vessels against piracy, the Netherlands may not be your best choice to register your vessel.

As for his pulling in to refuel, that sounds like a lack of planning and foresight.
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The Eritreans aren't known for their tolerance to foreigners, including foreign yachts, yet they moan about their economy sinking into the abyss....
I know and deal with lots of Eritreans, I respectfully disagree with your statement that they are not known for their tolerance to foreigners.
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Re: Arrested: group from "Protection Vessels International"

A well armed contingent of paramilitaries steams into a port in an unstable East African country, and they are surprised they are treated as a threat and arrested??? It's like a scene from "The dogs of war".
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I know and deal with lots of Eritreans, I respectfully disagree with your statement that they are not known for their tolerance to foreigners.
By 'the Eritreans' I was referring to their government, not the people themselves. I was remiss in not making that distinction, especially considering events in the world nowadays.
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Re: Arrested: group from "Protection Vessels International"

Thanks for clarifying that Vep...
But when I said "deal with" I was referring to both the Govt. and private sector.
For sure experiences can vary as much as the the individuals involved.
I may be fortunate, but mine have all been very good.
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Check out Eritrea in the CIA Factbook
https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/er.html

and I'd be surprised to find out that ANY nation has recognized an Eritrean state, much less appointed consuls or embassies there. From what the CIA has to say, it sounds like Eritrea isn't quite established yet, and putting into port in conflict lands while carrying weapons is generally, well, not a great idea.

Anyone know if the Ozzies even HAVE any formal relations there??
Yea because they are very poor and they could probly use those weapons to go after Ethiopa and then there is always the possability that maybe it was deliberate!DVC
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A well armed contingent of paramilitaries steams into a port in an unstable East African country, and they are surprised they are treated as a threat and arrested??? It's like a scene from "The dogs of war".

No more like it's a mad mad mad mad world.
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