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23-11-2010, 14:50
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Aug 2009
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'Apsara' Lost
From Herb:
The vessel had departed Marthas Vineyard around 2 weeks ago bound for
Bermuda with the owner and 2 crew onboard (crew were father and daughter),
shortly after entering the Gulf Stream they encountered unexpectedly bad
weather and the owner reports experiencing 25-30 ft waves. During this
storm the vessel rolled over and Mr William Thorns was lost overboard. Mr
Thorns daughter, Amanda, and the vessel owner Mr Dennis White were left
drifting for 12 days without any power or means of raising the alarm. The
vessel lost the use of her sails and motor during the incident and it took
the 2 survivours 3 days to bail out the boat. During the initial period
after the storm a large piece of rigging was left in the water still
attached to the yacht and this very easily could have ruptured the hull.
After failed attempts to hail 2 passing merchant vessels, the two managed
to catch the attention of an 80,000 GRT Oil tanker that was sailing from
Philadelphia to Nigeria, by using hand held flares.
The tanker łTriathlon˛ rescued Miss Thorn and Mr White and landed them
safely in Bermuda at 06:50 this morning. Miss Thorn has since flown home
and Mr White is being looked after locally
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23-11-2010, 15:05
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: PNW
Boat: Knutson K-35 Yawl "Oh Joy" - Mariner 31 Ketch "Kahagon" - K-40 "Seasmoke" - 30' Sloop "Baccus"
Posts: 1,289
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Ouch. Condolences to the family.
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23-11-2010, 16:52
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: North of Baltimore
Boat: Ericson 27 & 18' Herrmann Catboat
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I have experienced those seas and more on a trip to Bermuda this time of year.......A boat that left before us was lost but the crew was saved....At the time, it was the longest USCG Helo Rescue.....the Helo Landed in Bermuda....on fumes.
The Gulf Stream and Weather Windows have to be carefull watched.....
It is always sad to lose someone.
Eternal Father Strong to save......
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23-11-2010, 17:08
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Brooklin, Maine U.S.A
Boat: Allures 44
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Article with photo s in MVY Times.
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23-11-2010, 17:34
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
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Hum, they give the name of the yacht as the "Emma Goldman."
Hard to tell but she looks to have been a very traditional wooden vessel, narrow draft, wooden masts.
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23-11-2010, 18:29
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Boat: Fountaine Pajot, Antigua 37 - Ti' Punch
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No EPIRB? Not tethered in a gale? There seems to be some low hanging fruit in the area of lessons learned on this one. My condolences to the survivors and family of the victim.
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23-11-2010, 18:45
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Senior Cruiser
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Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ti' Punch
No EPIRB? Not tethered in a gale? There seems to be some low hanging fruit in the area of lessons learned on this one. My condolences to the survivors and family of the victim.
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According to the article in the Martha's Vineyard Times he was wearing a "lifeline". Assume this is non sailor for a harness or tether.
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23-11-2010, 19:05
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Condolences to the family.
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23-11-2010, 19:47
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Boat: Fountaine Pajot, Antigua 37 - Ti' Punch
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Missed that Skipmac, thanks for pointing it out. I wonder if the attachment point ripped out or the harness gave way or what.
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23-11-2010, 19:51
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Paradise (better known to most people as: Philippines)
Boat: 65' Custom Steel Ketch
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Yuck. Condolences to the little girl, and her family.
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24-11-2010, 07:19
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: puget sound/ caribbean
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There seems to be at least some confusion. I have met Dennis and Emma Goldman,she is a cat ketch(free standing rig/ no jibs).
The boat alongside the tanker looks more conventional. Mast stepped further aft with bowsprit.
Those warm eddys south of the stream are very dangerous.
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24-11-2010, 07:22
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Location: Cape Cod
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Willy was well known to my wife when she was younger. She assures me that he was a capable sailor. He built traditional wooden boats in Cotuit MA. He was also a big part of my wifes love for boats and sailing growing up. This past summer she was telling me she wanted to get in touch with him to let him know what a positive influence he had on her life.
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24-11-2010, 07:53
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: puget sound/ caribbean
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Edit above post#11, I confused Emma Goldman with another boat called Pollen Path. same hull design with different rig. that looks like EG alongside the tanker.
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24-11-2010, 12:04
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CF Adviser
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Location: Wherever our boat is; Playa Zaragoza, Isla Margarita
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Truly tragic, but kudos to them for bailing, hanging in and ultimately surviving. It is already turning out to be a rough year for those jumping off from the NE coast of the US for passages south, or to Bermuda. It makes one wonder if conditions are worsening, or if it is just a numbers game ( judging from the popularity of the Caribbean 1500 etc., it seems that more people are making the trek each year)?
Brad
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24-11-2010, 13:11
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Currently Milford, CT
Boat: S/V Running Fish - Passport 40
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I got to know Dennis and the Emma Goldman when he was passing through Lauderdale two years ago. I offered him my dock while he waited for a weather window, and I really enjoyed his visit. My condolences to the Thorns and to Dennis.
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