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Old 22-11-2010, 17:39   #76
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I'm suddenly eager for my students to return from Thanksgiving break; I think I'm going to assign this thread next week.
By the time they see it this thread will twenty pages. But if they undertand that it comes from all over the planet and across cultures they will have an excellent exposition of your point to examine.

Gord really started a riot.

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Old 22-11-2010, 17:44   #77
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Emoticons Don't Insult People: People Insult People

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GordMay said—I think that all of the smart-ass & insulting emoticons* should be removed from the forum. They all convey ideas & attitudes that we wouldn’t permit if overtly expressed in words.
There's a problem with the premise of the original post: that some emoticons are inherently "smart-ass" and/or "insulting." If the premise were valid, the conclusion would be sound; however, the premise is not valid.

These little animated pictures are not inherently pejorative: it is the context in which they are used that determines meaning. Any of the emoticons highlighted in the OP can be used in ways that are innocent. Consider the following hypothetical, but very plausible, examples:
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You, know, an M-16 with a scope will take out those annoying Powered Water Craft.
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Clearing in and out of [COUNTRY NAME] is an experience you wouldn't believe.
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I've been grinding for days now, and I still can't get all the 5200 the previous owner used to bed all the deck hardware!
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So the owner realizes he just took 50 gallons of No. 2 diesel down the wrong deck fitting, and these two guys start screaming at each other right there on the fuel dock…
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You can leave the generator on for hours, but you're never going to get all 220 amp-hours stored in a battery that has lost 20% of it's storage capacity, no matter what your meter says.
All innocently used, but I could just as easily use each of them in ways that are disparaging, insulting, belittling and degrading.

The problem isn't the emoticons, amoral collections of pixels they are: the problem is that they are used (notice the passive verb) to disparage, insult, belittle and degrade.

The mods go a great job of creating a culture of respect and camaraderie around here. If you're going to restrict anything, restrict behavior, not icons.
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This is turning into another anchorgunmonomultigasordiesel thread.

On of the 4 agreements......Don't take anything personally.

I would rather see emoticons than some obscure Acronym
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Hope the OP is taking the Mick... Can't be bleedin' serious?
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:v iking::b irthday::e ek: Man you can carry on a whole conversation with these things Woops 20 emocon limit, had to delete some, ....dozen or so : (
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Am I alone in seeing the irony of this thread. Its singular purpose was a suggestion to eliminate symbols which create divisive and argumentative content, and it has failed miserably to do that. Was that clear enough without some little cartoon?

I must say though, when I read Gord's earlier comment suggesting that I go someplace else if I don't play by his rules, the hair stood up on the back of my neck. Somebody that owns this forum must benefit from my being here, because I now receive ads from vendors here at home, who I personally don't patronize. So is my presence here being marketed.?
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Wait -- do you think Gord started the SSB / Sat Phone thread????
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Seriously, I think emoticons play one useful role: expressing when someone is being lighthearted / ironic / sarcastic when, if you simply read their words, you might miss this essential fact because it would take too long or be too unweildy to express it. Beyond that, I think they are pretty juvenille.
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This site has lots and they are great (for the most part).

That whole huge area of ones to choose from for a post reply is wasted space. Replace it with a slew of emoticons.

They also save writing a thousand words that I cannot articulate well enough to not be understood the way I meant it.



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Emoticons have been around since the beginning of time in one form or another. The Asians/Egyptians have used some sort of picture writing long before the smilie face. Evolution of Picture Writing Early Writing Development


As well, if one were talking face to face with someone, they rely on facial expressions. Close your eyes and ask someone a personal question, and it is unlikely you'll get a true response or their feelings.
Emoticons are not much different then Pictograms or Ideograms! Internationally we use them on a daily basis. Just a better way to communicate....................._/)
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Symbols or words...............it's all how they are used. If symbols are banned..................are words far behind!
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