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11-12-2016, 01:25
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Southern California
Boat: Cape Dory 30C
Posts: 32
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Demasting/Transport/Remast
I bought a sailboat(cd30), that’s in a lake 600 miles from me. I need to bring her down home in SoCal and I’m stressing over how I can do that.
Please advise.
Regards and thank you.
S/V Of Course
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11-12-2016, 01:41
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Location: aboard, cruising in Australia
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
Of Course,
Zekmeister, I hope that is not really you....the zeks had a terrible time.
Sail the boat to wherever you are. Fix it up along the way as you find what needs to be done. Bring $$$$$$$$$$$$$. It's life with a boat.
Ann
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11-12-2016, 01:51
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Southern California
Boat: Cape Dory 30C
Posts: 32
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
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Originally Posted by Ann T. Cate
Of Course,
Zekmeister, I hope that is not really you....the zeks had a terrible time.
Sail the boat to wherever you are. Fix it up along the way as you find what needs to be done. Bring $$$$$$$$$$$$$. It's life with a boat.
Ann
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Not the answer i expected but thanks for the answer. Just to clarify I'm trying to rehearse the trucking of the boat to a boatyard from the lake like the demasting and subsequent transporting to the yard. I have never done this before so any input is appreciated highly.
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11-12-2016, 02:22
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Location: Up the mast, looking for clean wind.
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
Hi, no need to panic. What you're doing is fairly routine, & 98% of it can be solved by common sense & a cool head. And a tip, you may wish to call it removing the mast (for transport), or pulling the mast. As demasting sounds much like dismasting, which is fairly catestrophic, & kinda' violent. Given that it means that your mast & rigging were subject to a "gravity storm", & came down rapidly, in an uncontrolled fashion, without permission
As to your undertaking, odds are there's some information which will assist you in the below linked post. But basically you want to remove everything that you can from the mast. Including stays, halyards, lights (if it's easy to do, & they're fragile), etc. And pack everything so that it's padded against chafe, & well secured so that it can't move when on the road. Plus to protect it from kicked up road debris & such. Just like you'd do if you were moving household goods, or anything else important to you that's semi fragile, & expensive.
Let us know if you have further questions. Oh, & take pics of everything before wrapping it up, & after, too. Plus ensure that the trucking company knows how to reach you. And that your insurance companies transport requirements have been met.
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...st-165348.html
Edit: Here's one other thread on the topic, & there are more here on the forums. Just do a search. http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...le-160490.html
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11-12-2016, 04:30
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
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Originally Posted by UNCIVILIZED
Oh, & take pics of everything before wrapping it up, & after, too.
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Pics are worth many hours in solving a jig saw puzzle. Also, buy yourself a laminating label machine and mark everything. I have 27 shrouds and stays and I would never have been able to sort them out after after a week let alone years on the hard. I didn't take enough pics, (years before digital), and it has been a challenge at times.
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11-12-2016, 08:00
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Bumping around the Caribbean
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
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Originally Posted by Zekmeister
Not the answer i expected but thanks for the answer. Just to clarify I'm trying to rehearse the trucking of the boat to a boatyard from the lake like the demasting and subsequent transporting to the yard. I have never done this before so any input is appreciated highly.
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Without the benefit of any information at all about the size of the boat, the available haulout facilities, etc...
Have the mast taken down via crane. Beforehand you'll need to disconnect all lines and coil and strap them to the mast, take all furling lines to drums, etc. Disconnect all wiring going up the mast. Take the boom off and make a cradle for it on the deck of lumber. Prepare all the stays by removing all pins and loosening turnbuckles. Crane sling gets attached to the mast above balance point and tightens. Unfasten all the shrouds, bring to mast and tie them off so the whole rig with shrouds is lifted off together.
The cost of trucking the boat is in part a function of it's height; the higher the boat, the more limited the truck's routing options are due to power lines, bridges, etc. So take down anything that you can that rides high...hard dodger, electronics arch, radar/wind generator pole, etc.
Hire a professional trucking company. The yard and the trucker will be responsible for putting the boat on the truck, securing it, and loading the mast and other parts you maybe had to take off like the dodger, etc. You might be tempted to pack/wrap stuff yourself. Don't. They are professionals and if something gets damaged and you packed it yourself you'll probably be out of luck trying to get insurance to cover it.
Here's a good primer on taking down your mast:
https://www.morganscloud.com/2014/12...r-mast-easier/
In future, the more information you provide in a situation like this (size of boat, including draft, height of mast, where it is, facilities there, where it's going, etc) the better responses you are going to get.
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11-12-2016, 08:22
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
Zek, what lake is the boat at? I am at Clearlake and there are a surprising number of ex-deepwater sailors in the area that would probably help you out. If it is Tahoe or any other lake, see if there is a sailing club, and you will find people that have done the job before. What size boat? On your own trailer or a boat haulers trailer? I recently had a mobile home mover pull my 34 foot boat (on my own trailer) for much less than the professional boat haulers estimated. Making very solid supports so that the mast cant move at all during transport is very important. Good Luck. ____Grant.
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11-12-2016, 08:29
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Southern California
Boat: Cape Dory 30C
Posts: 32
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
Thank you for the insights.
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11-12-2016, 08:43
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Southern California
Boat: Cape Dory 30C
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
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Originally Posted by gjordan
Zek, what lake is the boat at? I am at Clearlake and there are a surprising number of ex-deepwater sailors in the area that would probably help you out. If it is Tahoe or any other lake, see if there is a sailing club, and you will find people that have done the job before. What size boat? On your own trailer or a boat haulers trailer? I recently had a mobile home mover pull my 34 foot boat (on my own trailer) for much less than the professional boat haulers estimated. Making very solid supports so that the mast cant move at all during transport is very important. Good Luck. ____Grant.
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Boat is in Redding. I have a local professional guy who will truck it down and my issue is finding a crane and the process of removing all the wires and lines. I would want it done professionally so I can claim damages in the event of any breakage, although I do see it as an excellent learning opportunity. I will also talk to the marina management for advise as well.
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11-12-2016, 08:47
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
Ok, I am guessing that CD30 means Cape Dory 30 at 10,000 lbs and 9 foot beam. If that is the case you will need a wide load permit. I put a bid out on U-ship and got some flaky drivers wanting to know if I was going to pull the permit. People that pull for a living usually have a permanent wide load permit. Be wary of anyone that asks you to pull the permit. ____Grant.
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11-12-2016, 08:52
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
I missed your response. It sounds good. Please get back to all of us and let us know how it turns out. Nice boat! _____Grant.
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20-12-2016, 22:07
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Southern California
Boat: Cape Dory 30C
Posts: 32
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
Excellent how to!!! Thanks
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20-12-2016, 23:49
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Join Date: Apr 2013
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
Ideally the marina where it is at will have a crane to lift the mast. It's not really that hard, just clarify how much assistance you want from them.
Even if there is no crane at the local marina, you can hire a crane to come in but probably at a higher price. Not hard to wrap up and secure the rigging once down.
Most truckers DO NOT have a permanent wide load permit (with rare exceptions they aren't offered), so asking about who is obtaining the permit is a valid question and it's simple to state that you want it included along with any required chase vehicles etc... Also require them to coordinate with the marinas on both ends (no sense paying for the boat to be hauled and no truck to sit it on).
It's really not as bad as it sounds. Boats get trucked all the time and your boat isn't anything particularly large.
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23-03-2019, 14:10
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Southern California
Boat: Cape Dory 30C
Posts: 32
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Re: Demasting/Transport/Remast
Almost forgot about this thread but as an update I got the boat home. I'm working hard to launch her May 2019. Currently: 1.) rebuilding the MD7A, 2.) Replacing and upgrading to thicker standing rigging, 3.) 4 coats bottom paint, 4.) installing dual AIS/VHF antenna, 5.) upgrading to bigger bilge pumps, 6.) wiring mast, 7.) replacing mast light bulbs with LED. 8.) repair and restitching my sails.
Appreciate all the info guys.
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