<![CDATA[Cruisers & Sailing Forums - Anchoring & Mooring]]> http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/ en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:39:37 GMT vBulletin 60 http://cdn.cruisersforum.com/forums/../ugala/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg <![CDATA[Cruisers & Sailing Forums - Anchoring & Mooring]]> http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/ Manually Retrieving an Anchor on a Roller http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/manually-retrieving-an-anchor-on-a-roller-33142.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:55:51 GMT Well, my last anchor question has just topped 200 responses in under 2 months, and it has been an incredibly informative read. I'm now officially more confused than when I asked the question.......

So, I'm kind of sold on some sort of "next gen" to replace my 25 lb CQR, type still to be determined. But, as I ponder what to get, I do have another issue to consider (and it isn't a "holding" issue, hence the new thread). I do not have a windlass, and don't expect to get one. My boat is a 12,000 lb 34' sailboat, sailing the Chesapeake Bay with no intentions of ever leaving the Bay, at least in this boat.

So, here's the question. My 25 lb CQR is an absolute DOG to get on the roller. I usually end up reaching over the bow, grabbing that messy thing, and manhandling it onto the roller. Granted, I've only anchored on this boat a handful of times so far, but that's the way it's been playing out. Are there any "next gen" anchors in the 25-35 lb range that play nicely on the bow roller without a windlass? And related to that, are there any tricks I'm missing to make it easier? The anchor comes up to the roller, but when the shackle hits the roller, the applied moment (sorry, I'm a mechanical engineer) is essentially zero and the anchor won't rotate toward the horizontal.

Given that Spade, Sword, and Raya are essentially unavailable in the US, and price unfortunately plays into the fray, the strong players right now are Delta, Manson and Bruce (probably used, or a knock-off), if that helps the answers.

I grew up on a boat with a bowsprit and a Danforth, and we stored the anchor hooked on the bobstay. That was easy!

Harry
Sabre 34
Annapolis ]]> sailingharry http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/manually-retrieving-an-anchor-on-a-roller-33142.html Line Rubbing http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/line-rubbing-33126.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:30:59 GMT Attached is a picture of how the previous owner had the boat docked. It is backed in and the lines cross over each other (port side stern cleat to... Attached is a picture of how the previous owner had the boat docked. It is backed in and the lines cross over each other (port side stern cleat to starboard side of dock and vise versa). As you can see they rub along side the dinghy davit (which was recently added) and prior to that appear to have rubbed the rail.

I was planning on installing a line chock on each side, so it would take the abuse and redirect the line from the cleats. However, something seems off with that approach and I am seeking a second opinion.

Also, during the recent storm that ran through the Chesapeake, the boat was held with port bow cleat to port side forward piling and starboard bow cleat to starboard side forward piling. Then the stern was the cross over described above. It seems to keep the boat centered between the pilings and dock but it is different than I have seen in anchoring diagrams.

Finally, dockline snubbers? They seem non-existent in the marina I am at - thoughts?
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]]> Kefaa http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/line-rubbing-33126.html Split Capacitor on Windlass Motor Terminals - Why? http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/split-capacitor-on-windlass-motor-terminals-why-33115.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:35:48 GMT I'm replacing a stripped gearbox on my Lewmar Concept 1 Windlass. The motor and gearbox are a single unit so I have to replace the motor as well. The wiring on the original motor included a pair of 1.5 microfarad capacitors connected to all three terminals on the the motor. I'm wondering if I should transfer these to the new motor as well, but it's not on the wiring diagram that it came with. Can anyone tell me what the purpose of these capacitors might be? I have an idea they might be intended to prevent radio interference, but I'm not sure.

Thanks
Graham
1985 Beneteau Idylle 11.5 ]]> Zul http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/split-capacitor-on-windlass-motor-terminals-why-33115.html Lofrans Progress II Removal http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/lofrans-progress-ii-removal-33104.html Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:21:00 GMT I'm trying to get my Lofrans Progress II windlass out. I've cleared everything from the top half of the windlass minus the base. Below I've removed the four nuts from the bolts that appear to be holding it to the deck. I can turn the whole motor assembly below decks and that also turns the shaft, I just can't get it to pop free.

I should also say my II is old, and in fact it looks more like the schematics of the Progress I than the II.

Is there something I'm missing or should I just start putting in some wedges to pry it off?

Thanks,
-p ]]> Patrick_Seattle http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/lofrans-progress-ii-removal-33104.html Number of Anchors http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/number-of-anchors-32983.html Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:57:57 GMT I have a bruce and a plow but the Admiral keeps wanting a third anchor. How many anchors do you carry and what type? I am worried about storage. I have a bruce and a plow but the Admiral keeps wanting a third anchor. How many anchors do you carry and what type? I am worried about storage. ]]> mparent http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/number-of-anchors-32983.html Galvanizing Chain http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/galvanizing-chain-32879.html Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:08:52 GMT Does anyone in the Toronto - GTA - Durham - York region area know a place where I can take my anchor chain to be stripped and re-galvanized? Does anyone in the Toronto - GTA - Durham - York region area know a place where I can take my anchor chain to be stripped and re-galvanized? ]]> sailingmonica http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/galvanizing-chain-32879.html Securing to the Dock http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/securing-to-the-dock-32722.html Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:21:42 GMT i have a question regarding tying up my sailboat to the dock. ive always been under the impression that it was best to secure the boat bow and stern... i have a question regarding tying up my sailboat to the dock. ive always been under the impression that it was best to secure the boat bow and stern tightly to the dock then setup the spring lines. couple of fellow boaters in my marina are telling me that its better to leave the lines slack. i would think that with winds or current that the boat wiould tend to slam into the dock more that way. can someone please expalin this to me. thank you ]]> davevancat http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/securing-to-the-dock-32722.html <![CDATA[Weaving Back & Forth at Anchor]]> http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/weaving-back-and-forth-at-anchor-32665.html Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:28:44 GMT We have a Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 45.2 that weaves back and forth when at anchor. If we could stay inside the tabs of the talk (+/- 30 deg. off... We have a Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 45.2 that weaves back and forth when at anchor. If we could stay inside the tabs of the talk (+/- 30 deg. off center), I'd be fine. But our boat veers as much as 40-50 deg. It is uncomfortable as well as increases the chance of dragging anchor as the force of the wind strikes the hull. It seems to veer more than other boats. I am trying to figure out why so I can come up with a solution.

It seems to be sailing on its foil (keel) over the wind-induced surface current. I've tried locking the wheel to either side with the boom (and stack pack) secured to one side of the boat. I have tried going off the bow roller as well as off the forward cleat scupper, to no avail. We've tried tying a bucket off the stern to slow its swing! Nothing has worked.

I am not interested in building a steadying sail or dropping a stern lunch hook.

Am I missing something simple here? Or is there a deeper issue I am not seeing? Your help is appreciated. Thanks. ]]> nelson.peter http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/weaving-back-and-forth-at-anchor-32665.html Good Deal$ on Chain? http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/good-deal-on-chain-32591.html Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:28:32 GMT I've been looking around for some replacement rode chain. Ideally, I'd like about 150' for the primary and 100' for the secondary.

Because weight and storage is limited on the old (new-to-me) Cat27, I decided to spring for some HT G4.

My searches have come up with average prices between $4.25 - $5/ft. Keeping in mind the rest of the retrofit costs that are yet to come, I decided to look around ebay too.

So here's the crux of this post: Ebay has a seller listing themselves as bmmktginternational out of Ft Lauderdale, FL that has galvanized 5/16 G4 at $2.95/ft. That seems like such a good deal my BS alarm is starting to go off. They haven't yet responded to my questions as to whether it's hot dipped galvanized vs. electroplated and whether it's stamped G4.

Anchor Chain,5/16" Galvanized High Test G4 USA NEW:eBay Motors (item 320440031221 end time Nov-23-09 13:59:44 PST)

Does anyone out there have any other quality control questions I should know to ask before I send my $$ into the ether? Their feedback may not be stellar at 93%, but slow shipping seems to be their big issue. Many buyers reviewed them as "product as described". I'm just wondering if those buyers know that high test chain should be stamped, and was it?

Finally, I'm wondering if anyone has any commentary on the use of a Raya anchor in the Puget Sound area? I've narrowed my choices down to either the Raya or a Rocna as my upgraded primary. I'll keep my 16lb forged Danforth as my secondary.

Thanks in advance.
Brad ]]> blsailors http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/good-deal-on-chain-32591.html Bridle and Rode Question http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/bridle-and-rode-question-32518.html Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:46:37 GMT Hi Cruisers, We are in the process of re-doing and replacing all of our ground tackle and since I am so new to all this I have constant... Hi Cruisers,

We are in the process of re-doing and replacing all of our ground tackle and since I am so new to all this I have constant questions.. Hopefully soon I will have more knowledge and be able to contribute more..

We are building a new bridle and our everyday anchoring set up will be 60' of 3/8" HT chain attached to 150' of 3/4" line.

With our old setup we were attaching the bridle to the chain with a snap shackle.

With our new setup I want to be able to attach the bridle to the 3/8" line. But I don't know how to make this work well or even if it is safe way to go..

Can I get some ideas on this setup and advice from others that have done this?

Regards to all,

Meck ]]> Meck http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/bridle-and-rode-question-32518.html Anchoring Accident http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/anchoring-accident-32405.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:07:16 GMT I don't want to make light of this guys bad luck, but he sure could have used some good advise on anchoring his 1971 Irwin. Here is a video of the unfortunate results. He beached his boat on the 15th of October. He is still working on digging it out trying to re-float his sailing vessel.

Here is more of the details of the incident. The owner bought the boat for $12,000 from a guy in Fort Myers. He has never owned a boat before, and has never even been on a sailboat before he bought his Irwin. He was attempting to motor sail it from Fort Myers to his home town of Holiday, FL a distance of about 200 miles, with one overnight stop in the Venice inlet. He ran out of fuel just south of the Venice Beach pier. He had radio so he anchored and swam to shore and called his wife for a ride home. Later that night the coast guard called him and told him his boat was beached on Casperson Beach in Venice. He came back the next day and called Sea-Tow and they told him they would charge him $10,000 to remove the boat from the beach. The owner said that much money is more than he could afford. So he started digging with the help of some nice people and they are still digging 10 days later.

So I am glad that I have all of you to seek advise from before I put the "Yo-Ho" in the water next week. ]]> kcmarcet http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/anchoring-accident-32405.html <![CDATA[Marinas in St. Thomas, St. Maarten & Bahamas]]> http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/marinas-in-st-thomas-st-maarten-and-bahamas-32392.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:31:57 GMT Can anyone tell me where my husband and I can find marinas to visit while we're in the Caribbean in January? We're stopping in Cococay Bahamas on Jan 4th, Charlotte Amalie St. Thomas on Jan 6th, & Philipsburg St. Maartin on Jan. 7th. We're seriously considering the leap into the cruising lifestyle & want to meet and spend some time with folks that are living our dream so we can pick their brains and see what we can learn.

I've looked online but I'm having trouble finding anything...maybe I'm not looking in the right places though.

Thanks for any help you can offer. ]]> PTCowgirl http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/marinas-in-st-thomas-st-maarten-and-bahamas-32392.html Cutting Board? http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/cutting-board-32356.html Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:29:50 GMT Put my 300 feet of 3/8" G4 chain in my boat today and found that it hangs up now and then on my lower Bob stay attachment (backing plate and nuts).
Looks like it WILL work and fit but I'm going to have to do some tweaking so it works reliably/consistently EVERY TIME.
I'm thinking of lining the chain locker (sloped portion at least) with a cutting board type material (NATURAL Plate HDPE) or with (NATURAL Sheet UHMW).

Has anyone done this before?
Did it help the chain slide further down more easily?
Are either of these materials glueable?
Which of the two materials is more flexible?
What thickness would you suggest using?

Any insights would be terrific.

Extemp. ]]> Extemporaneous http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f118/cutting-board-32356.html