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			<title>pacific/atlantic crossing with bolt on keel ?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2026 22:37:38 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[hi all 
i'm looking for first hand experience from people who have crossed an ocean in any older boat with a bolt on keel.  
how often do bolt on...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>hi all<br />
i'm looking for first hand <a title="View more discussions on Experience" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/experience.html">experience</a> from people who have crossed an ocean in any older <a title="View more discussions on Boat" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/boat.html">boat</a> with a bolt on <a title="View more discussions on Keel" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/keel.html">keel</a>. <br />
how often do bolt on <a title="View more discussions on Keel" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/keel.html">keel</a> <a title="View more discussions on Boats" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/Boats.html">boats</a> make the <a title="View more discussions on Passage" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/passage.html">passage</a> ?  i've seen guys on youtube say its very risky, how true is this ? what are the actual dangers of crossing an ocean in a <a title="View more discussions on Boat" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/boat.html">boat</a> with a bolt on keel ?<br />
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gaz</div>

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			<title>Running Aground Lower Chesapeake Bay</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 16:34:42 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've been quite lucky for the past 15 years sailing in some very shallow creeks on the Chesapeake Bay.  
 
I've run aground before but could always...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've been quite lucky for the past 15 years sailing in some very shallow creeks on the <a title="View more discussions on Chesapeake&nbsp;Bay" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/chesapeake.html bay">Chesapeake Bay</a>. <br />
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I've run aground before but could always back off.<br />
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Not this time.<br />
<br />
I got pushed up on a shoal, and the boat was heeled over showing a couple feet of the bottom.<br />
<br />
A waterman tried to pull me off with his 200 HP <a title="View more discussions on Outboard" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/outboard.html">outboard</a>, but he couldn't get the boat to come off.<br />
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I was then in and out of the <a title="View more discussions on Water" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/water.html">water</a> for the next 2 hours plus doing various things including using the <a title="View more discussions on Mast" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/mast.html">mast</a> <a title="View more discussions on Halyard" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/halyard.html">halyard</a> to swing the keel up. This after placing the <a title="View more discussions on Anchor" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/anchor.html">anchor</a> out a ways so I could <a title="View more discussions on Winch" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/winch.html">winch</a> the boat off.<br />
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These two together finally got me off, but I was freezing by the time I was done. <br />
<br />
All  my muscle are sore since it was an extreme workout, and I'm 70 years old.<br />
<br />
Next day hit bottom again but was prepared since I knew I was going into a very shallow creek to get a slip for a week,<br />
<br />
I was able to jump in and pull the boat off this time.<br />
<br />
I've sailed back further into both of these creeks before years ago no problem.<br />
<br />
The permanent slip that I'm headed to has a main channel that is 2' deep at low tide so I can only come and go near high tide. My boat draws 4'.<br />
<br />
Lots of shallow creeks on the Eastern Shore.</div>

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			<title>Deep Water with the Admiral</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2026 17:22:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[First time ever.... I was thrown from the helm, even when braced.  That's quite something in a 43' old heavy sailboat, when taking them at the right...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>First time ever.... I was thrown from the <a title="View more discussions on Helm" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/helm.html">helm</a>, even when braced.  That's quite something in a 43' old heavy sailboat, when taking them at the right angle.   Was completely caught off guard by the conditions, not <a title="View more discussions on Forecast" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/forecast.html">forecast</a> (shocker) &#128533; <br />
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Question:  in my scenario: 80m/250ft <a title="View more discussions on Depth" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/depth.html">depth</a>, 2 miles <a title="View more discussions on Offshore" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/offshore.html">offshore</a>, worst waves 4-5m/13-16ft at 5 seconds.    I have three options.<br />
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1. Turn and surf, try to get into port, but the sea <a title="View more discussions on Bed" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/bed.html">bed</a> shallows all the way.<br />
2. Hold course, and repeatedly apologise to the Admiral, promise her literally ANYTHING to make it up.<br />
3. Keep going deeper (and a reasonable angle) and hope it improves deeper.<br />
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Note: the wind/wave <a title="View more discussions on Forecast" class="sk_tag" href="https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/forecast.html">forecast</a> was for 1/5th the conditions we had.<br />
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Thoughts appreciated.  I'm also starting crowd-funding for the Admiral's payback<br />
<br />
Papawads</div>

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